Quote Originally Posted by RPJesus
I wasn't criticising the people in the military, I was critiscising the idea of training people to kill. That kind of stupidity just ends up with a mess. Look at McVeigh...
It's stupidity to train people to kill? And the better idea would be to sit back and do nothing when we're attacked or invaded? Yes, look at McVeigh. Millions of Soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines have cycled through our military, and one did something very bad. Look at Mr. Rogers -- he was a Marine sniper, had more confirmed kills than anybody else in Vietnam, and the second most in Marine history. Or look at lee Harvey Oswald -- He was a Marine. So was the kid in Texas who decided to take a rifle to the top of one of the university towers and start picking people off, late 60's I believe. What's that prove? It may prove...what, that some people are dangerous? No [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]. Would you rather train a few people that might possibly become dangerous at some point in their future, or go without a trained military and have absolutely no defenses? In fact, nevermind, I don't think I want to hear your answer to that. Do a couple bad Catholic priests "prove" that all organized religion is wrong? What about Boy Scouts that grow up to do bad things, should we shut them down too?

Anyway, many people do join the military because they can't find work. Maybe not everywhere, but in many places. Like Flint, Michingan. Watch Farenheight 911, that explains it.
Don't tell me you're trying to base your side of a debate off a propaganda film by a known socialist. Please tell me you're smarter than that. Please.

As for "you get to run around and shoot people", you show your ignorance of military.
I wasn't saying that this is the way that all soldiers think, although some do, I meant that I hate the fact that stupid teenagers and republicans spew this rubbish. I certainly wasn't saying that's the way it is, but that's what some teenagers interested in joining the military do. They think it'll be an easy job, good pay for their situation and a laugh.
And again, you show your ignorance. As somebody who joined the Army less than a month after the earliest possible time I could (you know, as a teenager), and obviously has had experience with other teenagers (through training and deployments), I've never met one person who thought that it would be fun to join the military because we "get to run around and shoot people". It's not an easy job, it sure as hell isn't good pay, and I don't ever remember combat being "a laugh".

Though some will take it seriously, yes. And the republicans? it's what they make of it. Good fun shooting foreiners, I suppose that's what they consider it to be.
Though this doesn't even dignify a response, I will politely say that it's completely...misguided...to label Republicans* as people who think it's "good fun to shoot foreigners". Maybe somebody's responsibility to protect and defend America, which might happen to include combat with "foreigners". It's fun to shoot some of them, sure, but that's because of what they do, not because they're not American.

*(By the way. Republican = One who supports the Republican party, the GOP. republican = One who supports a republic, which is the current form of America's government. Just like a democrat would be a supporter of democracy, but a Democrat would be a supporter of the Democratic party.)

And it's not like playing a game. There would be aliens or nasis or space-mutants or alien-nasi-space-mutants. These are real people and I of course realise this.
Do you realize it? So does every Soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine. you're the one who tries to make it out like we think it's some sort of fun game. We know better, and 99.9% of the time, we don't like seeing combat.

Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
Sasquatach - make sure that by the end of your duty time, you can still count to 10, using your fingers. Combat Engineering RESPECT!
Hip and jaw so far, but still got all my fingers . Thanks.