Revolution Controller (and more details about the Rev with video demo)

[Madame Adequate]

Whoa. Some of you are being way too cynical about this. I wonder how many opinions would be changed around here if an official Final Fantasy title was going to be released for it.

As I said before, I'm kind of worried about the controller. I swear I'm the only person that has a "wait and see" attitude. I think it's a bit to early to say that the controller is bad or good.

If an RPG was announced it wouldn't really matter, because that and strategy games are the only conventional genres which can probably get away with such an awkward design. But if it was an FF, sure, that'd pull the sales in. Doesn't make the console good or bad, though.

[DJZen]

They had a hope with the DS. At least you can see right off the bat how the new features are fun, but it's still a very familiar design (especially to anyone who's seen a Game & Watch). This, however, is going to alienate EVERYONE who's not already a Nintendo fanboy. Think about it. Sony fans will be laughing their heads off when they see this. There's no way they'll be won over. Xbox players will... umm.... well they'll have Halo I guess. Casual gamers (non-dedicated gamers who play for a while and don't give a darn for brand loyalty) have already shown they prefer Playstation, and this new controller will only confirm it for them. They'll look at it and say "gay" and go right back to PS3. Old schoolers will apparently feel right at home with the sideways NES style layout, but really, how many games will be designed with that in mind? This controller will be awful for sports games, I just can't see anyone wanting to play Madden on this system anymore.

Its strengths will lie pretty strongly in gimmick games. Sure, you can get a "shell" to use an old style controller, but you know that that won't be well recieved, and everyone who gets a Revolution is probably just going to buy one of those anyway. This reminds me a lot of the XaviXport, where the only real way to play more games is to buy the proprietary controller for them. This makes each game that much more expensive.

I'm NOT a closed minded gamer. I'm neither a new school mainstream gamer nor am I an old school traditionalist who poo poos everything that's come out since Super Mario Bros. 3. I gave the DS the benefit of the doubt and even supported it in spite of it being the unpopular system. As far as I'm concerned, however, this could well be the nail in the coffin for Nintendo as a console manufacturer. I know it's still early yet, which is why I say could well be and not is going to be. However, Nintendo has lost a LOT of footing ever since the PS1 came out, and they've been losing more and more with each new generation of consoles. This isn't going to be a popular move on their part. Right now, Nintendo needs to focus on their market research a little more and see what real gamers really want. They're REALLY pidgeonholing themselves with this one. If they survive, I'll be elated. If they somehow manage to come out on top (good luck, going up against 2 of the biggest names in electronics IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!), I'll be revelatory. However, right now, it really seems like Nintendo up and shot themselves in the foot...

[Rengori]

They had a hope with the DS. At least you can see right off the bat how the new features are fun, but it's still a very familiar design (especially to anyone who's seen a Game & Watch). This, however, is going to alienate EVERYONE who's not already a Nintendo fanboy. Think about it. Sony fans will be laughing their heads off when they see this. There's no way they'll be won over. Xbox players will... umm.... well they'll have Halo I guess. Casual gamers (non-dedicated gamers who play for a while and don't give a darn for brand loyalty) have already shown they prefer Playstation, and this new controller will only confirm it for them. They'll look at it and say "gay" and go right back to PS3. Old schoolers will apparently feel right at home with the sideways NES style layout, but really, how many games will be designed with that in mind? This controller will be awful for sports games, I just can't see anyone wanting to play Madden on this system anymore.

Its strengths will lie pretty strongly in gimmick games. Sure, you can get a "shell" to use an old style controller, but you know that that won't be well recieved, and everyone who gets a Revolution is probably just going to buy one of those anyway. This reminds me a lot of the XaviXport, where the only real way to play more games is to buy the proprietary controller for them. This makes each game that much more expensive.

I'm NOT a closed minded gamer. I'm neither a new school mainstream gamer nor am I an old school traditionalist who poo poos everything that's come out since Super Mario Bros. 3. I gave the DS the benefit of the doubt and even supported it in spite of it being the unpopular system. As far as I'm concerned, however, this could well be the nail in the coffin for Nintendo as a console manufacturer. I know it's still early yet, which is why I say could well be and not is going to be. However, Nintendo has lost a LOT of footing ever since the PS1 came out, and they've been losing more and more with each new generation of consoles. This isn't going to be a popular move on their part. Right now, Nintendo needs to focus on their market research a little more and see what real gamers really want. They're REALLY pidgeonholing themselves with this one. If they survive, I'll be elated. If they somehow manage to come out on top (good luck, going up against 2 of the biggest names in electronics IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!), I'll be revelatory. However, right now, it really seems like Nintendo up and shot themselves in the foot...

Very in depth, DJZen.

[ljkkjlcm9]

I don't know people, I watched the entire Nintendo press release video, all 50 minutes of it, and it seems like Nintendo really did their homework on this one. I'm going to wait and see how this turns out.

And for the record the DS increased the portable market by a very large amount

THE JACKEL

[SomethingBig]

The Playstation and Playstation 2 have had both the G-Con .45 and the G-Con 2 lightguns. The latter of which had a D-pad on the back.

Now how exactly is what Nintendo is doing radicaly different to this?

Because the GunCon was used for just shooting, whereas the Revolution controller will control movement and attacks. There hasn't been a console yet that used motion sensors to this extent.

And as much as I hate to admit it, I agree with DJZen.

[Agent Proto]

Hey guys, Nintendo is creating a shell that resembles a "normal" controller, so don't dismiss that this current controller will be the only kind on Revolution.

[bipper]

BRING ON THE "RAR IT SUX KOS IT GEY ND FAG!" COMMENTS!

RAR IT SUX KOS IT GEY ND FAG
Simply put, thier controler should look like this:


For those who like to keep it to the hands - this highly advanced model should still be followed:

[Madame Adequate]

Hey guys, Nintendo is creating a shell that resembles a "normal" controller, so don't dismiss that this current controller will be the only kind on Revolution.

I like the idea of not having to buy a new peripheral for half my games.

Just me though, I wager.

[Agent Proto]

oh yeah.

STFU naysayers.



Just to let you know, it's not the official shell, but what it may look like. It may have a different look when Nintendo officially showcases the shell.

[Rengori]

I hated the Gamecube controller too. That's just me though.

[Agent Proto]

It's not going to look like that. It may, but I'm pretty sure it will have a better look.

Besides, the GameCube controller is the most comfortable controller, like ever.

[bipper]

the SNES controler was the last one that made any sence to me.

[Excelsior]

I love how everyones bitching about this controller before they've ever touched it, and yet everytime I complain about Advent Children or Final Fantasy XII and how lame there gonna be, everyone chews me out and tells me to have an open mind.

[DJZen]

Well as I've always said, it's the games that make the system. Nintendo's new philosophy seems to be that the system should make the games. Will Nintendo release some sort of add on? Yes, they've already said they would, it's kind of a given at this point. But how much will it cost? With the GC controller you could play just about any game released for the system. Okay, so Dance Dance Revolution with Mario is a bit of an exception, but that's one game out of hundreds. I fail to see how this controller will accomodate your typical Mario game. You can't even play Mario Sunshine with only 2 buttons, it just wouldn't work. You know how camera angles in 3D games are really annoying WITH the ability to rotate the camera? Well, kiss that camera rotating option goodbye. Oh, and remember that Kingdom Hearts game that everyone was talking about? Yeah, that'd never work with this controller either. Oh and how about those two games that every GC owner bought? What were they called again? Oh that's right! Soul Calibur 2 and Super Smash Bros. Melee! I guess this controller isn't so good for games like that either.

It's different alright, but that in and of itself isn't always a good thing.

Also, I'm not saying the system will suck. For all I know it'll be the greatest thing ever made. However, I DO know a bad marketing decision when I see one, and this has "suicide" written all over it.

[gokufusionss1]

[QUOTE=bipper]

For those who like to keep it to the hands - this highly advanced model should still be followed:

ahh the glory days!

This idea is actualy starting to grow on me.