Quote Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
ultima weapons hard, or at least i thought he was. i always had so much trouble with him, but that's because my characters were all level 100.and i wasn't quick enough. ultima weapon was really fast for me, and doomtrain helps a lot with him, so i suggest you get doomtrain first.

and you don't know what the ragnarok is. you can't get bahamut and eden if you don't have the ragnarok.
ultima weapon hard? 3 renzezokens finished him.