Now it's slowed down...bo-ring...
Now it's slowed down...bo-ring...
And why praytell, do you hate it?Originally Posted by DarknessFromAbove
Damn Yankees is a unpopular play!Originally Posted by Hsu
It was a musical that was adapted into a film (like "Grease").Originally Posted by Hsu
I like Kung-Fu.
Wait...capitalism causes AIDS, now? We have a new Cloud No.9 on our hands, here.Oh, erm, lets see... The huge amounts of poverty acroos the world? The AIDS epidemic in Africa?
60 million Americans are without healthcare because 60 million Americans cannot afford healthcare. There is nothing in the Constitution about a "right to free healthcare at others' expense." Also, I would argue that they cannot afford it primarily because various socialist government policies have made it harder and harder over the years to get out of your economic class - a free market allows for everyone who wants and deserves to be successful, to be successful.over 60 million Americans without healthcare? The fact that oil-wars claim the lives of hundreds every month? Corporate-backed fascist dictators?
All socialist ideas eventually lead to dictatorship, because irrationality and anti-freedom can only be enforced by gun-point. Stalin was the logical consequence of communist ideology.Actually, that is indeed the sort of thinking Soviet Russia came from, and is the kind of thinking I agree with. But that kind of thinking ended in 1924, when Stalin drove out the Leninists like Trotsky. Then Russia became a totalitarian dictatorship, communist in name only.
The US isn't a completely free country, either. But all of these evils (higher mortality rates, growing ranges between rich and poor classes) have all come after the institution of the welfare state. Hint?And, before you go on an anti-marxist rant, consider this: the literacy rate in Cuba is higher than that in the US. The infant mortality rate in Havanah is lower than in Washington D.C. That shows something, doe it not? Castro has proportionatly more literate people in his nation than Bush, King of America, Emperor of the Free World. And that's comparing the USA to Cuba, a small island nation. Compare the US to one of the Scandinavian countires, then you'll see that capitalism doesn't work.
I have the distinct feeling all the logic in the world is a waste of time here, but it's still amusing.Yes, I know. it was still a waste of time.
Neanderthals did it voluntarily, and I would be glad to support whatever other human beings I choose to support. But when the government takes away my money involuntarily - by threat of force - in order to give it to someone who has not earned it, that is theft.It's not theft. It's supporting your fellow human beings. Neandethals did it. So you can too.
How is money stolen from the poor?And the amount of money that is 'stolen' from you to give to the poor is an insignificant fraction of how much is stolen from the poor, to finance the rich.
No, I am not a liberal or conservative. Yes, I could be considered a capitalist. Yes, I do put myself before everyone else, though not in the sense you mean, and only because I <i>haven't</i> given up ideals, morals, and ethics, and instead embrace them. And no, I have no desire for wealth, and consider power to be insignificant.It seems you're not a standard conservative, but your not liberal either. You're a capitalist. Someone who puts themself before eveyone and everything else, giving up ideals, morales and ethics, in pursuit of wealth and power.
This is where liberal arguments fall short. They claim that, as a capitalist, I define value of human life by money, and put own wealth above everything - that greed is my prime motive. But I don't strive for wealth. My only motive is what I desire, which automatically nullifies any sort of second-hand self-respect, such as power, fame, prestige, etc. And the only political/economic system where I am free to do as I want - as long as I don't interfere with another's freedom - is pure capitalism.
EDIT: Oh, and I also love how liberals hate on Coolidge and Harding, even though the economic collapse after them was only made possible by <i>government intervention</i> in the economy, which isn't possible in a truly capitalist society.
But who's to say what those are?Originally Posted by Raistlin
I like Kung-Fu.
I envy you.Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I like Kung-Fu.
We're discussing economics/capitalism, Shluppers. So you can just say "I agree with Raist, even though he's still stupid" like you usually do, and let it go at that.
Or she can say it because you are actually correct.Originally Posted by Raistlin
Well, of course I am, but I thought that was obvious.