Question

[Raistlin]

When making personal threads, from what I can remember Staff saying, the person making the thread has the option between GC and EoEO. There's no definite rules between them, except that a thread made in EoEO will have significantly less spam.

Now, why isn't this the same for EotW? When making a thread about current events, if the person making the thread considers the topic to be more light-hearted discussion, why can't he/she make it in GC? And if people start to discuss things more seriously, so what?

[RSL]

Otherwise there would be no point in banning them from EoTW if they can just take the same crap to General Chat.

[fire_of_avalon]

1) As I stated in my reply when I closed them, we have EotW for a reason. The fastest way to politicize a question is to include viewpoints on conservativism and and liberalism. If you're going to politicize something to that extreme, you can't have random spam. This leads me to point 2.

2) Those threads were full of spam. Spam by several members who are currently or have been in the very near past, banned from EoEO/EotW for spamming. I'm not going through those threads and deleting every spam post. If the people who made those threads want to discuss them, they can remake the threads in EotW. There's no rule against that.

[Raistlin]

Then why the contradiction between EoEO and EotW's policy? What purpose do EoEO bans have? To keep people from putting inappropriate things in a more restricted forum.

Why couldn't I post something more light-hearted like The Flying Spaghetti Monster theory in GC, and if that topic turned into a serious discussion about religion, so what?

[RSL]

Why do you think we need to have the same policy for Eyes on Each Other and Eyes on The World?

[Shlup]

I liked the thread being in Gen Chat 'cause I got to call Raist a capitalist pig. Best thing I did all day.

[Raistlin]

Why do you think we need to have the same policy for Eyes on Each Other and Eyes on The World?

Well, the same theory is behind both forums: having a place where people can more seriously discuss certain issues. EoEO is for personal/intellectual things, whereas EotW is for current events/politics/history. Why can I make the choice where to make a philosophy thread, but not a politics thread?

[Shlup]

He makes a valid point.

Ban 'im.

[Raistlin]

See, Shlup agrees with me!

Now either the Apocolypse is about to happen, in which case the point is moot, or I actually do have a point that needs to be resolved.

[RSL]

I don't think so. We were having a fine time with no political threads in General Chat until we started temp banning people from the EoTW forum. Suddenly political threads are popping up in general chat involving many of these same people! What is the point of the punishment if we allow this?

[Shlup]

Capitalist pig.

[Raistlin]

I don't think so. We were having a fine time with no political threads in General Chat until we started temp banning people from the EoTW forum. Suddenly political threads are popping up in general chat involving many of these same people! What is the point of the punishment if we allow this?

Could I make a relationship question in GC? What's the point of banning people from EoEO if they could just make a thread like that in GC? Could I make a philosophy thread in GC? What's the point of banning someone from EoEO if I could just make a philosophy thread in GC? I could go on and on.

[RSL]

Do relationship threads turn into flame wars often? I don't know because I rarely visit EoEO. If they do, then perhaps we need to look into your idea.

[Raistlin]

It seems that Staff is biased against political threads. Just like that whole Feedback fiasco during April Fools, when people spam/flame in a certain type of thread/forum, it's stupid to punish the thread type/forum. If people flame, warn them. If they continue to flame, ban them. You do the same thing with spamming.

[Del Murder]

Eotw was created to house all the political type topics so that people who like to argue and make sarcastic comments toward one another can have a place to do so without annoying the rest of us. If I had my way all political talk would be banned from this forum, so be lucky you at least have that place to show off your views.