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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    It seems that Staff is biased against political threads.
    Because political threads are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder
    Eotw was created to house all the political type topics so that people who like to argue and make sarcastic comments toward one another can have a place to do so without annoying the rest of us. If I had my way all political talk would be banned from this forum, so be lucky you at least have that place to show off your views.
    Now that's stupid. If you don't like a thread, don't read it. How does the mere presence of a link annoy you?

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    Some of us have to read those threads! We can't have no staff members reading them or else all hell would break loose.

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    I thought it was a great idea at the time. Still do. EoEO was like 70% political threads at the time, and going into the forum was like "argh, my face is pinched uncomfortably." Now it's just like "haha girls don't like you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder
    Eotw was created to house all the political type topics so that people who like to argue and make sarcastic comments toward one another can have a place to do so without annoying the rest of us. If I had my way all political talk would be banned from this forum, so be lucky you at least have that place to show off your views.
    Now that's stupid. If you don't like a thread, don't read it. How does the mere presence of a link annoy you?
    I think it's more the fact that virtually every political discussion quickly dissolves into senseless bickering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSL With A Hat
    Some of us have to read those threads! We can't have no staff members reading them or else all hell would break loose.
    So why does it make a difference if that thread is in GC or EotW?

    I think it's more the fact that virtually every political discussion quickly dissolves into senseless bickering.
    *repeats last question*

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    So why does it make a difference if that thread is in GC or EotW?
    This is an issue of evading a punishment. That is all. Go make those threads in EoTW and all will be fine. If you can't because you are banned, well that sucks I guess! It was all explained from the beginning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSL With A Hat
    So why does it make a difference if that thread is in GC or EotW?
    This is an issue of evading a punishment. That is all. Go make those threads in EoTW and all will be fine. If you can't because you are banned, well that sucks I guess! It was all explained from the beginning!
    So why the different policy for EoEO? Why does it make a difference between EoEO and EotW?

    It's not the thread types. EoEO is not the "this is the only place you can discuss personal issues," nor is EotW the "this is the only place you can discuss current events/history/politics." EoEO is the "this is the only place you can discuss personal issues seriously with no chance of undue amounts of spam" forum.

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    If it's just a matter of not reading threads that don't look appealing, why have different forums at all? Threads are seperated into different categories for a reason.

    People are given the option whether to make a personal thread in EoEO or GC to give them a sense of control over a personal issue, or something that can be discussed generally. Politics isn't a broad and general topic anymore than a thread about games can go in GC because it's about games in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    I think it's more the fact that virtually every political discussion quickly dissolves into senseless bickering.
    *repeats last question*
    I was simply trying to show what I thought Del Murder was saying--it wasn't that he disliked the presence of the threads, though I imagine you were being sarcastic when you typed that.

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    It annoys me because people bickering in one thread often finds its way into others. I am not biased against political threads. I am biased against people acting like idiots and making fun of each other. For some reason these two things can't be mutually exclusive. My truce with those who like to argue politics and current events was to ignore that forum, and I did also ignore those few threads in GC about these things, but since this is all out in the open I thought I'd say my piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
    If it's just a matter of not reading threads that don't look appealing, why have different forums at all? Threads are seperated into different categories for a reason.

    People are given the option whether to make a personal thread in EoEO or GC to give them a sense of control over a personal issue, or something that can be discussed generally. Politics isn't a broad and general topic anymore than a thread about games can go in GC because it's about games in general.
    Ok, off politics. How about Talk Like a Pirate Day. That's a current event - why isn't that in EotW? Or religion - a thread about religion should, going by forum definitions - go in EotW. Or history. But if any of those threads were made in GC, they wouldn't be closed. Only political threads. That's a logical contradiction in staff policy, and shows an unreasonable bias against those threads.

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    I am biased against people acting like idiots and making fun of each other.
    Then don't punish political threads, punish the people who are idiots.

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    I don't think the bias is unreasonable.

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    This is a dumb thing to argue about. EotW is for political/world events threads. That is where we put them, and that's where they should stay.

    The difference between EoEO and EotW lies in specificity. This is also the difference between EotW and GC. EotW is VERY SPECIFIC in it's subject matter. A certain type of thread goes there. A specific type of thread. There's no reason for us to let a bunch of those types of threads stay in GC when you have one half serious discussion and one half LOLZ OLZ LOLZ. That's not fair to the thread starter, that's not fair to those who partake in serious discussion, and that's not fair to staff for having to keep track of them when they can just as easily be put in their proper place.

    Now, why then, can we decide to put something in GC over EoEO, though it's likely a personal matter or question? Because those are non-specific areas. They have their rules, yes, but not exact rules as to what kinds of threads go there. In EoEO, the rule is serious threads and serious responses. That's it, (besides various other forum wide rules, such as no flaming, no porn, etc. etc.). Similarly, GC has simple rules. Relaxed threads and relaxed responses. If you want to share an amusing or unusual relationship experience, you can put it in GC. If you want advice on this same experience, you put it in EoEO. Dependng upon the type of answers you want, it's your choice. Similarly, EotW is for discussion of a specific type, and that specific type of discussion should be restrained to EotW. Now, please take another look at those threads in GC. Those follow the exact pattern of an EotW discussion. Those threads have their place, and can be remade there.

    There is no sense in making all different kinds of threads in all the different forums. What would be the point in making a political thread in the FFX forum? Nothing. I see it as the same thing as making a political thread in the GC forum. It's like putting your shoes in the wrong shoebox.

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    Then don't punish political threads, punish the people who are idiots.
    Since they are already banned from that forum, then should we just go ahead and perman ban them from teh forums completely?

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