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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Well, because actually, I do not give a sh*t about Cloud's love life, and I do not want him to end up with Tifa (or Aerith). The thing that I see a big possibility for them has to do nothing with "OMG, they're destined to be together".
    I just do not care that much about the whole compilation.
    You don't want him to end up with Tifa, but you seem quite sure that Cloud will move on with Tifa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Hah, actually, no.
    I have a lot of Cleris friends, who saw romance in CoT. Are they not Clerises then...?
    And you've yet to tell me where you saw this romance. I'm not going to make judgements about the opinions of people I do not know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Hmmm, what do I want to see in the story...? Please be that kind, and tell me.
    From what you've told me, I would say that you want to see Cloud move on with Tifa. Since you don't explain what you're basing your opinion on, then I'm assuming that you must think that "moving on" would be what's best for Cloud and therefore it will happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    And...?
    Just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Because he do not want to forget her. I never said that now he'll forget her, and will never remember her.
    I think she'll stay in his heart forever, but he won't love her romantically eternally.
    What do you base that on, and why does that mean that he'll move on with Tifa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    What does he hold back from her...? That he stopped to get a flower, and stopped, to call her...? I think if he would hold back anything from Tifa, he wouldn't put that flower directly in front of the photo, but instead he would hide anything that represents Aerith, away from Tifa. But he does not do this.
    If Cloud continues acting the way he did in CoT, then he may have simply said, "I found this by the side of the road" and never mentioned what it had to do with Aerith. How do you know he told Tifa that Aerith is in the flower field? How do you know he told Tifa that he can communicate with Aerith? How do you know he told Tifa that he sees Aerith sometimes?

    I haven't heard Reminiscence myself, but the majority of people seem to think that Tifa called Cloud. They tell me the sounds before Tifa's call are the same as when Cloud received phone calls from the other people.

    Another thing he hid from Tifa is why he's taking the day off. That's something Tifa wanted him to do in CoT, but he refused. Now he decides to take a day off, but he doesn't ask her to join him. Please don't say that he may be planning to surprise her, because that's extremely OOC for Cloud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    From CoT:
    Cloud gazed at Tifa and finally smiled. It had that kindness that made her think everything was all right.
    In the first place, you said "caring". Caring and kindness often go together, but they're not the same thing. For example, I may be kind and help an elderly woman cross the street, but that doesn't mean I'll continue caring for that woman for the rest of her life. So an act of kindness can exist without actual long-term caring and/or love.

    Secondly, that's from Tifa's point of view, and she goes on to say that it may have been an illusion. In other words, she thought it was kindness at the time, but it may have been something else. If Tifa's not sure that's what it was, why are you sure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Again, where do I stated that all of my interpretation will happen...? I even said that Cloud and Tifa has a possibility, and I never said that it's a fact that they'll end up together.
    Okay... then you should also accept the possibility as well as the interpretation that Cloud and Tifa will not end up together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pivi
    Well, it says to me, that he want to remember Aerith, because she'll be dear to him. But it has to do nothing with romantical love.
    Someone wanting to remember a loved one who has passed away is often an indication of romantic love, so it can be interpreted that way. I interpret the significance of the flower field to Cloud as being indication that he will spend lots of time there. Wanting to spend a great deal of time at the resting place of a loved one who passed away is indication that you loved them. MotP indicates that Aerith has retained her form in the Lifestream due to her love for Cloud, and that Aerith wants to communicate her love to Cloud:

    Quote Originally Posted by Maiden over the Planet
    Slanting her head to the side, she thought more about it.

    "Will I be able to talk to Cloud somewhere? So that I can tell him I'm fine... It's kind of odd saying I'm fine but maybe I can be "clearer" about myself here."

    Maybe she could be clear about her affections towards Cloud here. Then maybe they would be seen as family or lovers... During her lifetime in Midgar, she felt many souls of the ones that tried to confess their love. Those that still had those feelings or had those feelings left behind them could strongly retain their consciousness as a "whole".
    AC also showed us that the same boundaries between those who are dead and those who are alive in our world does not exist between Aerith and Cloud because they are able to communicate with one another, see one another, and touch one another, so Aerith would be able to communicate this to Cloud. If Aerith wants them recognized as lovers, then Aerith must realize that Cloud has the same feelings for her as she she has for him. Aerith still had her form in AC, so her feelings for Cloud have not changed. She also said in MotP that she would have stayed with Cloud forever and ever, if possible. Since Aerith thinks their feelings were reciprocated, then Cloud feels the same way. That's a love that will never die.
    Last edited by Anastar; 11-03-2005 at 10:42 PM.

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