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    one particular story that happened this week that has gained little to no news coverage is north korea abondoning it's nuclear weapons program and agreeing to return to nuclear non-proliferation.

    why wasn't this covered?

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    Do you have a link or anything?
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    I also read that and posted about it in the "The U.S. Government forum. I thought it was huge. I think it is pathetic that it gets such little coverage.

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    well, N Korea came to an "Agreement" with the US that they will give up nuclear progress in return for a non-agression pact from the US and a bunch of other concessions. Basically the US agreed to do whatever Korea wanted in return for giving up the nuclear program. The uS was boxed in by Iraq and Katrina, and supposedly China said "either you go along with this agreement or we'll tell everyone you destroyed the consensus of the six-party talks."

    It's just an agreement, but it's still good news. Here's a NY Times article (registration required).

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    I will post on this a bit later so I can slam something about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by eestlinc
    well, N Korea came to an "Agreement" with the US that they will give up nuclear progress in return for a non-agression pact from the US and a bunch of other concessions. Basically the US agreed to do whatever Korea wanted in return for giving up the nuclear program. The uS was boxed in by Iraq and Katrina, and supposedly China said "either you go along with this agreement or we'll tell everyone you destroyed the consensus of the six-party talks."

    It's just an agreement, but it's still good news. Here's a NY Times article (registration required).
    I agree! and this agreement will prolly get more press coverage than the Six party Agreement. (a little exaggerated but hey) That is what pisses me off. Of all the News papers I look at it was only on the front page of 2 (outta 11 papers at the market). That is a horible missuse of Media. They are feeding off the popularity of the New Orleans story, which, needless to say, was on the cover of every single paper. Granted, its news, but I feel this is a little more important at the moment.

    Before I get flamed, let me say that yes, New Orleans was a tragity and still is with all the new horrors that come our of there. I do however, think that this is a brightspot and a very important peice that more attantion shoulda been brought too. Especially in such a dark moment.

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    i think it may be because it doesn't do well for the american government. what would have been best for them is for korea to shoot down the agreement and tell america to bugger off. and george bush could go back to call korea evil and helping terrorists and selling nuclear weapons and so we must invade them.

    cooperation doesn't bode well for any invasion plans. and if he wants to keep them on the books then having people see korea in this light is not a good idea as it would reduce support. if people are kept in the dark then they will still think korea is in the axis of evil and be behind an invasion.

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    well, the fact that we stuck our collective fist in the hornets nest in Iraq and have pretty much proven ourselves woefully incompetent in implementing "regime change" makes the "let's invade Korea" position less than popular.

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    The event really surprised me, but it's definitely very good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    i think it may be because it doesn't do well for the american government. what would have been best for them is for korea to shoot down the agreement and tell america to bugger off. and george bush could go back to call korea evil and helping terrorists and selling nuclear weapons and so we must invade them.

    cooperation doesn't bode well for any invasion plans. and if he wants to keep them on the books then having people see korea in this light is not a good idea as it would reduce support. if people are kept in the dark then they will still think korea is in the axis of evil and be behind an invasion.
    Right, because, you know, all us Americans are a bunch of violent war-mongers. Worse than Ghengis Khan, we are. I just can't start my day without seeing my enemies driven before me and hearing the lamentations of their women.

    It probably hasn't been publicized because there hasn't been an official press release. In fact, I'm under the impression that the agreement isn't quite official yet. They're probably waiting a bit before they make a big to-do about all this.
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    I believe it's just a verbal "agreement to agree" right now.

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    well, N Korea came to an "Agreement" with the US that they will give up nuclear progress in return for a non-agression pact from the US and a bunch of other concessions. Basically the US agreed to do whatever Korea wanted in return for giving up the nuclear program. The uS was boxed in by Iraq and Katrina, and supposedly China said "either you go along with this agreement or we'll tell everyone you destroyed the consensus of the six-party talks."
    About bloody time. They've been trying to negotiate with us for the longest time, so it's nice that something finally was accomplished.


    Right, because, you know, all us Americans are a bunch of violent war-mongers.
    Yes, actually, we are.

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    And you people TRUST Korea in any sence?!? I don't know if you'd remember this, but they've made this agreement, to some degree, before. Said they'd shut down their weapon's program, in exchange for USA supplies. Including the power plant WE BUILT for them.

    A few years later, they started it back up. We made ANOTHER agreement, and they got MORE stuff.

    This, I believe, is the *fourth* time we've seen this happen. The first time they've requested any promise of military assistance, to my knowlege. (Who really know what they ask for behind closed doors in these negotiations?) But it's a cycle. What we're doing is giving in to blackmail, time and time again.

    No wonder it isn't in the news. Everyone who's in the profession has seen this happen, and fail, before. Repeatedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
    Right, because, you know, all us Americans are a bunch of violent war-mongers.
    Yes, actually, we are.
    You say that as if it's a fact. I happen to think otherwise, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by udsuna
    And you people TRUST Korea in any sence?!? I don't know if you'd remember this, but they've made this agreement, to some degree, before. Said they'd shut down their weapon's program, in exchange for USA supplies. Including the power plant WE BUILT for them.

    A few years later, they started it back up. We made ANOTHER agreement, and they got MORE stuff.

    This, I believe, is the *fourth* time we've seen this happen. The first time they've requested any promise of military assistance, to my knowlege. (Who really know what they ask for behind closed doors in these negotiations?) But it's a cycle. What we're doing is giving in to blackmail, time and time again.

    No wonder it isn't in the news. Everyone who's in the profession has seen this happen, and fail, before. Repeatedly.

    HAHA good point to bring up Fool my once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... what happens on the fifth time?

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