project for the new american century

[Cloud No.9]

okay that does it.

i just found a lovely little think tank called the project for the new american century.

so what does it belief in? well kind of a new world order under american control. it's first principle being "American leadership is good both for America and for the world" and that ""too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership." and how is this to be acheived "such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle"

the main ideas are to increase military spending, to challeneg anyone who isn't friendly with american values,

it called for an abondonment of the anti-ballistic missle treaty (which it got in 2002) and to establish a us space force. and what is the us space forces duty to be? "space control"

so for this lovely group of people with quite a lot of influence. world domination and control just isn't good enough. they want space too. all so the world can have "american values" it also believes in permant us army bases so readiness for invasion in strategic places to be easier. (just in case noone actually wants to be under total american leadership).

and it is a massively powerful organisation with many leading figures among it's ranks, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, jeb bush, cheeney.

are we worried yet?

[bipper]

Nope, I am American.

It actually does piss me off a bit; America is a country, not a religon. The country abandoned its christain roots long ago, and has fallen ever since. When you think of it though, it is the only way to ensure saftey, is to have control over everyone, and everything. Ever read revelations, I see more and more fufilled every day. As peace itches in the middle east, and the world will come under one king. boo. I am not a huge fan of this move at all.

[fire_of_avalon]

Links please? In the absence of internet based references, I'm willing to go look it up in periodicals and reference books, I just need to know what I'm looking for. This sounds like conspiracy theory to me.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Smells like Facism.

[Madame Adequate]

foa, they're genuine, I've been to the site before. Can't remember the URL to track it down right now.

Every worthwhile nation wants to impose its values on the rest of the world. If it didn't, it means it doesn't believe its values are right. Which doesn't make for a long-lived nation, or one with any cojones.

[ThroneofDravaris]

Yay, they’re getting space control, next their need the Gundanium Alloy…

Soon my precious Mobile Suits, soon…..

[bipper]

Evas!?

I beleive that space should be completley neutral. That's about... it... I guess


Actually, I talked to a little old lady who was boasting about during the second world war, the president put price ceilings (caps) on several items to prevent greedy bastages from getting rich off a false demand. She noted that with Bush it has been quite the opposite. Then she said that we will walk the same as Rome, and fall harder. It was just weird, but it seems true. History shoes that when a Civilization begins to expand its ideas and policies with force, they tend to collapse.

[Madame Adequate]

Actually, the fall of Rome was caused by the entire empire being corrupt and drunk, not because it was wide-spread. Look at the British Empire. We ruled 1/4 of the world, and it took a long time for the power to wane (And bear in mine, both Rome and Britain, as well as almost all other empires, continue to exist in some form or another once they fall.).

[bipper]

(And bear in mine, both Rome and Britain, as well as almost all other empires, continue to exist in some form or another once they fall.).

So Wisconsin will never die! /flex

Anywas, I just don't really know what to think of this idea. I mean, it seems kinda rediculous to make everyone play by your rules. No peaceful resolutions, etc.

How set in stone are these Ideals, I would like some reading on this subject now lol

[Cloud No.9]

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century

[ThroneofDravaris]

As fun as mecha anime are, they have no place in this thread. See you in two weeks.

~Void

[fire_of_avalon]

Thank you for the information.

[nik0tine]

I've been trying to tell people about this for AGES. Nobody listened to me though. Sasquatch thinks it's some conspiracy that I made up, and The Redneck... Well he was just a plain moron.

it also believes in permant us army bases so readiness for invasion in strategic places to be easier. (just in case noone actually wants to be under total american leadership).

It's not just that. It wants to liquidate the military bases in europe, and move them to places like Iraq. Well guess what, we are building smurfing permanent military bases in Iraq. If people would pay attention to this think tank, they would know EXACTLY what our last war was all about, and exactly what the bush presidency is all about. This will lead America to ruin, in the same way that Hitler brought Germany to ruin.

This sounds like conspiracy theory to me.

I can promise you, it's not. It sounds like a conspiracy theory because cloud 9 made it sound far fetched.

[radyk05]

so, will mark hamil save the galaxy? i mean, c'mon! lots powerful countries plain hate the us. do you think they'll fall that easily? take china. lots and lots of soldiers, lots of power and BIG BALLS. i think they learned their lesson when gengis kahn brought them down long time ago.

[nik0tine]

so, will mark hamil save the galaxy? i mean, c'mon! lots powerful countries plain hate the us. do you think they'll fall that easily? take china. lots and lots of soldiers, lots of power and BIG BALLS. i think they learned their lesson when gengis kahn brought them down long time ago.

You don't understand the point of the Project for the New American Century. The goal isn't to invade everybody and occupy the entire world. The goal is to secure strategic locations on the globe using military force so that we can keep our position as the most powerful nation on the planet. The middle east just so happens to be one of those hot spots. It is going to be a highly contested region, and we want control over it.