Just for curiosity.

[G SpOtZ]

i asked for a quote.

[Qurange]

Actually, Future Esthar, I remember what you're talking about, but that's an explanation for para-magic, not for magic itself. Magic as used by Sorceresses has fewer limits, as evidenced by the animation of the Iguions and Time Compression.

Unless you were talking about something else, of course.

[Christmas]

And you are going to claim Ultimecia's castle is a time travelling machine based on some black clouds?

No.In fact the characters time travel when they pass through the portals.It´s stupid to say that world is on the same time as Ulti´s.
Not only her castle is not seen on the world map but there weren´t real changes.
Also,Edea´s house isn´t on THE FIELD anymore.

Other than that,the word TIME COMPRESSION says something to you?

So what do the word TIME COMPRESSION had to do with the black clouds and everything related to this thread?

Fantasy has scientific explanation at least on FF7 and 8.
They were not like Dungeons and Dragons nor like the Legend of Zelda.I am sure of that.

Then post some facts to enlighten us then.

You just need to go to the information section of the "tutorial" and the Balamb Garden network.
I thought it was evident to everyone.

When do you start relying on the stuff in the infomation section since you said those are lies since they are stuffs known to their world which is masterminded by "X".

Anyway,there is no proper explaination to magic except for para-magic.

[Future Esthar]

That´s it.But where in the game it says magic is not para-magic?

[Sir Bahamut]

Well, you know, simply the fact that they are called different things should act as a clue to that they are different in some way, but maybe that's too subtle.

[Qurange]

That´s it.But where in the game it says magic is not para-magic?

It says as much on the Garden computer network--that para-magic isn't really magic, but a technique involving controlling energy, developed by Dr. Odine after his research on the Sorceresses.

[Christmas]

That´s it.But where in the game it says magic is not para-magic?

This is something about para magic and sorceress:



and this is something about magic, sorceress and Hyne:



Go compare it yourself.

[Future Esthar]

Some researchers discovered electricity by looking at thunders.They used metallic objects to atract it and discover it´s properties.It was then called electricity.And it is used on many different devices today.
Which means of course that thunders and electricity weren´t the same.
Electricity thus,has scientific explanation unlike thunders which comes from the gods.
NOTE:STUPIDITY OF COURSE.

[Qurange]

It's not the same thing, and the information given at the computer in the second floor classroom specifically states as such. (I don't have the PC version of FFVIII, so I can't get a screen capture, but it is there for the finding. Correct me if I'm remembering wrongly.) Besides, comparing an artificial technique meant to simulate what is basically the fragmented power of a god and the harnessing of a natural force is doomed to failure. They're apples and oranges.

[Christmas]

You can generate electricity from generators which is like drawing magic from monsters/etc.

Thunder and lightning is natural itself, which is like magic.

[Future Esthar]

It was supposed to be stupid.It was an alegory to your senseless argument.

You can generate electricity from generators which is like drawing magic from monsters/etc.

Thunder and lightning is natural itself, which is like magic.

That´s right Unknowns.

[Qurange]

The way that I always understood it, para-magic is much more limited than 'true' magic, which is why the GF is required to achieve power on a level with conventional weaponry, as the game seems to state. While para-magic users can only make use of very specific spells and abilities, a Sorceress is able to perform any number of different tasks with her magic, seemingly limited only by her power and imagination--the Sorceress rewrites reality, while the para-magic user manipulates energy to simulate effects. Now, that might be just my interpretation, of course, but I notice that there was no Warp spell, for instance, despite Edea's ability to teleport and to walk through walls. That's the main reason that I figured that para-magic is a less powerful, more rigidly structured way of manipulating energy that's derived from magic but is watered-down, for lack of a better term.

If we don't agree on that, then okie dokie. But, that's the position I was speaking from.

[Future Esthar]

If para-magic has scientific explanation and it is derived from magic then magic has scientific explanation on FF8.Even though they weren´t the same thing.

[G SpOtZ]

i think if i ever somehow saw what's in ur mind, my body would collapse into nothingness and i'd become a blackhole that sux everything in.

[Christmas]

It was supposed to be stupid.It was an alegory to your senseless argument.

You can generate electricity from generators which is like drawing magic from monsters/etc.

Thunder and lightning is natural itself, which is like magic.

That´s right Unknowns.

So I am trying to said, para-magic and magic is different, they aren't the same.