Other Final Fantasy

[BFM]

Feel free to discuss the following Final Fantasy titles that weren't part of the main series:

Final Fantasy Adventure (GameBoy)
Final Fantasy Legends I-III (GameBoy)
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (SNES)

[Dreddz]

neither was tactics or tactics Advance
All the spin offs werent nearly as good as the originals...........

[BFM]

True but Tactics and Tactics Advance were more popular than these ones and they have their own boards for discussion whereas these 4 titles do not. Have you played any of them?

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Tactics is way better than even the normal numbered series, but it has its own board.

As far as Adventure and Legends, I'm not sure about Legends but I believe Adventure is actually a Seiken Densetsu game.

[Winter Nights]

Yeah, FF Adventure was the first in the Seiken Densetsu or "Mana" series. They thought a FF title would sell better in the US than it's Japanese title would. Which is odd, as I don't think they had released an FF2 yet in the States. *shrugs*

And the FF Legend series is just garbage. Crappy battle system, color-by-numbers storylines, and horrible music even for Gameboy.

I heard bad things about Mystic Quest and always steered clear.

[DJZen]

The Final Fantasy Legend series isn't Final Fantasy, it's SaGa. And while they haven't all aged teriffically, THEY WERE GAMEBOY GAMES. Sheesh. That's like saying Pitfall had awful graphics and gameplay.

As far as Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, the people who don't like it don't appreciate simplistic RPGs, and bemoan the lack of existential nonsense and contrived "romance" storylines that have permeated the genre ever since... well... ever since. It's a fun game, albeit short and not terribly well concieved. The battle zones were just an awful idea that should have been shot down immediately, but oh well.

[Winter Nights]

Being a Gameboy game is no excuse for being crap. I played them when they first came out. They were very much crap, even for Gameboy standards.

[kikimm]

I can't stand playing games on a tiny little screen, so I've never subjected myself to the horror that is Final Fantasy Legends, or Adventure.

How do I know they are a horror? I don't. I'm making an educated guess.

[DJZen]

You know, there's these things called emulators that let you play gameboy games on your big fancy computer screen which you're probably looking at right now. Or, if you want to take the more legal route, there's the GBA player AND the Super Gameboy.

[Lord Chainsaw]

Being a Gameboy game is no excuse for being crap. I played them when they first came out. They were very much crap, even for Gameboy standards.

That certaintly is interesting. This isn't the first time I hear of dislike for the FF Legends. I'm curious to know why some of these games were disliked.

The first one is an absolute masterpiece. Its message transcends the trivial conflicts you normally see in video games. You don't get revenge on anyone and you don't save the world or any of that junk because it's the right thing to do. Its ultimate goal, expressed through the interaction of four worlds modeled from the religion of the Chinese Ssu Ling, is a very imaginative stab at what it means to live, and if living in God's Kingdom would really be as wonderful as you are lead to believe as a human being. I'm not going to spoil the game, but I will say it is definitely worth a full playthrough if you keep an open mind.

Legend II and III are not as good, although I do like Legend II as well. It borrows from pretty much every major form of mythology. The music in FF Legend II, as in Legend I, is wonderful. The battles are much better in the second one, although the game does get a little unbalanced towards the end. There's no deep, existential message in the second game. It's just good, clean fun.

Legend III had its problems, I won't deny that. It wasn't developed like the other SaGa games. The experience handouts in the game were pitifully messed up, but the battles were nice and fast. The boss fights were a lot of fun, but you get the feeling that because the boss fights last so long, levels really don't mean anything. When a boss takes 25 rounds to beat, what difference does leveling up twice and beating him in one less round mean?

[DJZen]

I actually liked SaGa 2 and 3. Granted I played them for about an hour each at a friend's house while he was building maps for Marathon 2 or something, but I still found them very fun.

[theundeadhero]

Legends II was one of my first RPGs and I enjoy it very much. I've beaten it too many times to count. Legends I was an okay game as far as games go and as mentioned before the story is interesting. I haven't yet managed to complete Legends III yet, but I'm currently working on it.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Tim Rogers trashes the first three SaGa games in his Minstrel Song review. Dispute this.

[DJZen]

Sooner or later, though, after poking around in three or four quests -- the most any hardcore role-playing gamer who doesn't love 7th Saga is going to be able to stomach -- we'll grow tired of this game's world

I think this sums up his entire review. Ya know, Timmy, maybe you wouldn't find games like the SaGa series so horribly confusing if you'd READ THE ****ING MANUAL!!!!! Any idiot who's purchased Final Fantasy Origins or Dawn of Souls can tell you the "mysterious voodoo magic" process involved in raising your stats. Granted, there's a lot that WASN'T documented about the game, but that's not the fault of the game designers so much as it is the fault of the manual writers. This whole article reads like a whiney fanboy having a hissy fit that some insolent developer somewhere dared to release a game that wasn't FFVII. Perhaps if he spent as much time and energy trying to learn the mechanics of the game as he did using his MS word thesaurus --and as many asides as possible-- in an effort to pass himself off as someone of importance and authority, he would actually come off as what he was trying to sound like. Instead, he sounds more like the sort of person who spent 5 minutes playing the game, threw his controller across the room and called it "the gayest thing ever". It's a well known fact that Akitoshi Kawazu's games are unpopular in the US. Taking shots at them is like making fun of the fat kid. You COULD do it, it'd be very easy to do, but you'll just come off seeming like a complete jerk and ruining ANY chances of finding some sort of female companionship (or male companionship for that matter), all without improving your social standing or impressing anyone. Then again, this is the same guy who thought FFVI was overrought and anti-climatic, so I guess I'm going against my own advice here by typing this, in that I'm making fun of someone who's essentially a sitting duck for insults. ICONOCLASM ONLY WORKS IF YOU'RE POINTING OUT REAL FLAWS IN SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY POPULAR IN A MAINSTREAM SENSE!!!

Is that enough of a dispute?

[Winter Nights]

Sooner or later, though, after poking around in three or four quests -- the most any hardcore role-playing gamer who doesn't love 7th Saga is going to be able to stomach -- we'll grow tired of this game's world

I think this sums up his entire review. Ya know, Timmy, maybe you wouldn't find games like the SaGa series so horribly confusing if you'd READ THE ****ING MANUAL!!!!! Any idiot who's purchased Final Fantasy Origins or Dawn of Souls can tell you the "mysterious voodoo magic" process involved in raising your stats. Granted, there's a lot that WASN'T documented about the game, but that's not the fault of the game designers so much as it is the fault of the manual writers. This whole article reads like a whiney fanboy having a hissy fit that some insolent developer somewhere dared to release a game that wasn't FFVII. Perhaps if he spent as much time and energy trying to learn the mechanics of the game as he did using his MS word thesaurus --and as many asides as possible-- in an effort to pass himself off as someone of importance and authority, he would actually come off as what he was trying to sound like. Instead, he sounds more like the sort of person who spent 5 minutes playing the game, threw his controller across the room and called it "the gayest thing ever". It's a well known fact that Akitoshi Kawazu's games are unpopular in the US. Taking shots at them is like making fun of the fat kid. You COULD do it, it'd be very easy to do, but you'll just come off seeming like a complete jerk and ruining ANY chances of finding some sort of female companionship (or male companionship for that matter), all without improving your social standing or impressing anyone. Then again, this is the same guy who thought FFVI was overrought and anti-climatic, so I guess I'm going against my own advice here by typing this, in that I'm making fun of someone who's essentially a sitting duck for insults. ICONOCLASM ONLY WORKS IF YOU'RE POINTING OUT REAL FLAWS IN SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY POPULAR IN A MAINSTREAM SENSE!!!

Is that enough of a dispute?

Did you just throw a whiney fanboy hissy fit over someone else throwing a whiney fanboy hissy fit?? :rolleyes2