Agreed (srry Future Esthar)Originally Posted by Skyblade
Agreed (srry Future Esthar)Originally Posted by Skyblade
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
Yes, this did happen, although it was not Jenova that reappears in a different form, it’s Sephiroth.
The word ‘Sephiroth’ is derived from ‘sephirot’, the 10 aspects of the Tree of Life (note the Tree’s other name; Systema Sephirotica).
The English word “Cipher” (ie Seifer) is a derivative of the word “Sephirot”. Thus, it is quite possible that when Square created Seifer, they purposely made him similar to the antagonist in the previous game. He does share similar motives (eg his eagerness to please Ultimecia parallels with Sephiroth’s reverence of Jenova, he has a strong link with the games protagonist etc.) and has a similar character design (debateable really, but I can see some distinct similarities), so if that phrase is authentic, it is more likely referring to Seifer than it is Ultimecia…
Just a thought, take it how you will.
EDIT: And of course, you could take the much more simple explanation, in that they were referring to Ultima Weapon...
there may be a lot of rumours but square created the game, not the rumours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
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Jenova APPPEARS PHYSICALLY (Sort of) in FMVs. So that's how I made that linkYes, this did happen, although it was not Jenova that reappears in a different form, it’s Sephiroth.
Thus, it is quite possible that when Square created Seifer, they purposely made him similar to the antagonist in the previous game. He does share similar motives (eg his eagerness to please Ultimecia parallels with Sephiroth’s reverence of Jenova, he has a strong link with the games protagonist etc.) and has a similar character design (debateable really, but I can see some distinct similarities), so if that phrase is authentic, it is more likely referring to Seifer than it is Ultimecia…
I can actually see this; I'd even go as far as saying that Seifer was a bit of a SPOOF of Sephiroth...
That was a refrence to the Sword Ultima Weapon (Which I think is one of them Subtle nostaliga like Zidane talking about Cloud in FFIX rather that a proper sequell) That wasn't an enemy.EDIT: And of course, you could take the much more simple explanation, in that they were referring to Ultima Weapon...
Or do you mean Ultimate Weapon? Or Even Atma? (Shortand Verison of Altima -Which was a misspelling of Ultima) Eeither way they weren't INPORTANT Enemys. So it is not them.
no no ULTIMA WEAPON, the guy you draw Eden from
I reject your reality and substitute my own
screenshot plz. cuz that'd be real interesting ^_^Quote:
Yes, this did happen, although it was not Jenova that reappears in a different form, it’s Sephiroth.
Jenova APPPEARS PHYSICALLY (Sort of) in FMVs. So that's how I made that link
and the enemy that's appearing in the game again is Cheese Weapon.
Thank you Hysterian!
Ultima Weapon is an enemy in FF7 (and FF6, when he appeared as Atma) which reappears in FF8, thus it is possible that they were just referring to it when they said that a previous enemy would return. It would be the far more obvious assumption, rather than to consider Sephiroth or Jenova.Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
I have all of the FF8 FMV’s on my computer, would you be able to describe to me which FMV you say Jenova appears in?
Yes,I know.It was too much for you.You aren´t prepared yet to accept it.
That´s why you call it crazy.
I am not calling you Ignorant.
It´s just that I didn´t post enough theories.
So ít´s all my fault.
At this time it would be virtually impossible to you to see the veracity of this.Is confusing.I hadn´t explained WOTC yet.That´s why.
I am trying to post the evidence for WOTC first.
I was trying to explain to Rubah what is the relation between the Propagators and our characters.
Skyblade,if you don´t wanna to see my theories,at least respect those who wanna to see and post about.Don´t keep trying to move these threads to be closed.That´s disrespectfull.
I think Kefka is the enemy who comes.I hadn´t played FF6 but looking at it´s picture is enough.Also,did the man said it would be an enemy on FF8?Maybe it was just an enemy on the other game.
Last edited by Future Esthar; 09-30-2005 at 02:48 PM.
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Man, you're unbelievable.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Its not too much for us, we understand what you're saying, as retarded as it is.
Just think about this: why would Squaresoft (at the time) spend all that time (and money) dreaming up a behind-the-scenes situation like this, to just link together their ingame facts?
They wouldn't. They don't care how all the occurances in the FFVIII world link together in the background. They probably just assumed that the people in the world were born from their parents, who in turn came from their ancestors, and not propagators from outer space.
I think you're grasping at straws here, because obviously you've spent so much time to yourself, convincing yourself that this is what the creators (authors) of the game intended. Now that you're trying to tell people, you're finding it hard to accept the fact that the vast majority of people here just do not agree with you, because you've spent so much time convincing yourself of this theory.
You've got to get out more.
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This look like a direct rip off from FF VII Jenova and the Cetra.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Why must it be the 4th generation anyway? And since everyone is propagators, what make Ultimecia so special as to be able to curse the others? And who or what possessed her?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
What do you mean by advanced "possessed" Centra soldiers. As far as I know, almost all civilizations in FF VIII originated from Centra.How can there be another civilization?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Why must it be Winhill anyway? And people of Winhill most likely originated from Galbadia which the Galbadian originated from Centra.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
How can you prove the that there is such a thing called "Queen" Propagator? As far as everyone know, propagators goes in pair and revive each other. So there is not a need for a "Queen"Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Why should they be afraid of the people of Winhills anyway? No matter what the people of WInhill knows or think, they cannot do anything to change it anyway. Why must the villian goes to such a big trouble to perform time compression to deceive people from Winhill.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Since everything is lost, how come you know it?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Why ,ust she goes to such a big trouble to do this like getting them to the desert prison from the orphanage...etc. Just gather them and do it straighr away.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
The same applies. She can do this straight away when they were kids or anything. Wjy must she wait until so many things happened.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Now what in your mind is Vascaroons anyway?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
There isn't any point for this villian to preserve his innocence since if he is so almighty powerful, why would he/she care about what the people of Winhill thinks.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Just because he had wings so he is related to Ultimecia or Rinoa?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
I'M DISRESPECTFUL?! WHO'S THE FRELLING JACKASS WHO SAID THINGS LIKE THIS:Originally Posted by Future Esthar
YOU CONSTANTLY ASSUME THAT YOU ARE SMARTER AND WISER THAN EVERY OTHER PERSON ON THIS FORUM, YOU REFUSE TO LISTEN TO ANYONE, AND THEN YOU CREATE BULL[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] THREADS LIKE THIS WHICH ARE JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE TO ADD IN MORE OF YOUR CRACKPOT THEORIES. THE DISCUSSION HERE IS "SQUARE'S INTENTIONS", NOT "WHAT INSANE IDEAS CAN FUTURE ESTHAR COME UP WITH NEXT". WE ALREADY HAVE THREE THREADS DEDICATED TO YOUR CRAP. IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE MORE THEORIES, PUT THEM IN THERE! THIS WAS A REASONIBLE DISCUSSION THAT NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL TOPIC! SO, YES, I ASKED IT TO BE CLOSED, BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER SERVING THE PURPOSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.Originally Posted by Future Esthar
That's me being disrespectful.
I am renewing my request to have this closed.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go do some chores and pray I don't get banned for that.
Last edited by Skyblade; 09-30-2005 at 06:01 PM.
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There is no reason to close this thread If anything, you will appreciate it for its entertainment value at least. The only reason it's going down hill is because people care too much...
I mean, if you really hated this thread so much, you would stop posting here. But then I guess everyone here (including myself) can't stand someone else having the last word…
Yes, there is. It should be closed because it has gone completely off topic, and because we already have plenty of threads full of Future Esthar's ideas.Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris
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