Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Then again a person with a perfect life who doesn't follow Jesus is also destined for Hell.
If it was possible to live a "perfect life", we wouldn't need forgiveness. And if somebody did live a perfect life, with absolutely no sin whatsoever, they would get into Heaven.
We are born into sin, since the origional sin. If that means that I have the sins of all my fathers on my head, I have a LOT of explaining to do

I know, Cain is called a traitor, but I don't get why he was. He killed Abel. Murderer, not a traiter in my eyes. When I read the story, and several references, I figured that the Idea of murder had not been around yet, and so Cain creating this sin, was a huge mistake. It has been said he felt guilt or anger afterwards, before he was banished. Thus, I have seen it as the conception of violence. Anyways, the action had not been strictly forbidden before that. Though, it was obviously a sin, it seems that Cain may have felt guild as he wandered into the land of Nod. Either way, I hope he found peace. Though I am sure the flood wiped out his reminance, and the pestulance of his kindred.

Also, to celar up another point, as Opt had stated, the gates of hell are locked from the inside. When a Christian dies, the go to sleep with the lord, and wait for judgement. Revelations states that the gates/jaws will be opened etc. The dead rise to be judged as such. The dead in the area of the crucifiction were also resurected on the day of Christ's death. Interesting enough.

Jesus was the first to die and be ressurected. This is definatley stated all over the NT. Jesus did this, so that all faithful followers could obtain the gift of heaven. Anywas, yes, to await judgment, we sleep with the lord. When we awake, we are to be judged.

Bipper