Do we have a "bangs head against the wall" smilie here? *checks*Evolutionism (the "ism" is because yes, it is a religion)
No, apparently not. But this adequately portrays the frustration of logic: :weep:
Do we have a "bangs head against the wall" smilie here? *checks*Evolutionism (the "ism" is because yes, it is a religion)
No, apparently not. But this adequately portrays the frustration of logic: :weep:
Higher power...past/present/future intervention and application of that power...an incredible amount of faith...sounds like a religion to me. It doesn't have to be organized to be a religion.
When you say something is fact, that's not an opinion, just to let you know.Originally Posted by hisoka*maehara
I like Kung-Fu.
Now where is my list of the seven requirements for something to be a religion... Evolution doesn't fit it, I can tell you that.
That said, how do you tell the difference between science and religion? Is geology a religion for rock heads?
You missed the part about them constantly whining about Bush destroying the Universe or whatever the heck it is he's being accused of these days.
I don't see how the hell that applies to evolution, which is based solely on empirical evidence. Microevolution is a fact - something conceded even by the most retarded fundamentalists - and macro is merely micro + time. Hell, we've witnessed speciation.
I don't see what "faith" evolution requires, other than the shocking idea that what naturally happens now also happened naturally thousands of years ago.
Just the fact that this conversation is necessary is revolting.
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Haha. You made this thread officially worth-while with that comment.That said, how do you tell the difference between science and religion? Is geology a religion for rock heads?
My name is Fred Phelps, thank you very much.And who are you, oh mighty one, to show anyone any disrespect?
Not to say you have, but that statement implies that you would find it somehow justified to do so.
I didn't insult another user, or show predjudice against another group.How many people have gotten banned for much less than this?
I stated a series of veiws, all of which can be fully explained as serious opinions, and not simply insults.
When I say stupid, I mean they fail to understand simple scientific fact. When I say narrow-minded, I mean a complete refusal to accept other's veiwpoints. When I say arrogant, I mean, well, arrogant. When I say wrong, I mean they have no right to force their contradictory, unproven ideas down everyone elses throat.
OK?
EDIT:Completely true. Evolution is a scientific theory, and, like all scientific theories, lies on a basis of facts and proof. The very opposite of waht faith taditionally entails- unquestioning beleif.I don't see how the hell that applies to evolution, which is based solely on empirical evidence. Microevolution is a fact - something conceded even by the most retarded fundamentalists - and macro is merely micro + time. Hell, we've witnessed speciation.
I don't see what "faith" evolution requires, other than the shocking idea that what naturally happens now also happened naturally thousands of years ago.
Just the fact that this conversation is necessary is revolting.
They bitch about Bush because he is a man of god. The liberals know that men of god are what will ultimately be their undoing, so they do whatever it takes to get rid of them, but to no avail! The lord hath spoken, and he hath spoken loudly!You missed the part about them constantly whining about Bush destroying the Universe or whatever the heck it is he's being accused of these days.
You don't see how a belief in Evolution requires faith? How about the fact that hardly any aspect of it has been proven? Microevolution is fact, true, but that's changes within a species. However, one species changing to another -- or even higher branches -- has never been proven to be possible. Not to mention there are piles of evidence aganist the idea of the earth being billions of years old, and moer evidence discounitng the "proof" that the earth must be old.
Jesus existed. He's documented in Roman law. The story about him claiming to be the Son of God and being crucified? That's in the books. But believing Evolutionism is the same as making the link between Jesus existing and believing in Christianity, both require faith.
You just insulted an entire group of people. How is calling an idea "stupid, narrow-minded and wrong", and the people that believe it "just arrogant jerks" not an insult?
Fail to understand simple scientific fact...refusal to accept others' viewpoints...arrogant...and no right to force their contradictory, unproven ideas down everybody else's throat? SOUNDS LIKE EVOLUTIONISM, SLICK.
But see, the difference with that is it's true.
I like Kung-Fu.
Err... No, actually. There is no real, scientific proof for the existence of God, while there is large amounts of proof for evolution. And any evidence to suggest that the earth is not billions of years old is most likely flawed- almost all modern scientists accept the idea that the earth is billions of years old, even if the precise age is still unknown. The only ones who disagree with that are neo-evangelists, and they are noted for their skewed veiws of the universe.
EDIT: Any scientist will admit that proof of evolution is imperfect, but that is because of the inherent nature of paelontology- fossils are, basically, pretty rare. They tend to be destroyed long before we find them, so we don't get the complete set. But, there is no other explanation that has even as much proof as evolution, let alone as much general recognition as a major, or even credibe, theory.
You just said "hardly any aspect of evolution has been proven, though the entire fundamental premise of evolution is fact."You don't see how a belief in Evolution requires faith? How about the fact that hardly any aspect of it has been proven? Microevolution is fact, true, but that's changes within a species.
The premise of Evolution is micro-evolution. Which is true. The problem is that Evolutionists try to use it to explain macro-evolution, and it just doesn't work.
I'm an Evolutionist.
My god is Evolutio the Destroyer. Bow before his All-Mighty Flaming Nostrils.
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