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    At the expense of other people. It sucks for people with as much ability as me. I don't need much, so instead of being able to save it myself and invest the money to live more comfortably, I'd have a gun pointed at my head by the proletarian demanding my wealth. No different than a criminal, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachifusa
    At the expense of other people.
    Like Capitailism? Where at the expense of many countries only a handful are luxurious.
    It sucks for people with as much ability as me. I don't need much, so instead of being able to save it myself and invest the money to live more comfortably, I'd have a gun pointed at my head by the proletarian demanding my wealth. No different than a criminal, really.
    Your are of the working class correct? The only people communism doesnt benefit are the rich and upper class. During the Socailist period everything gets evened out. So everyone can live a good life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFGuevara
    Not really if you dont know how to be a plumber then you wont become a plumber. You can choose what you want to be in a Communist society as long as you know how to do that kind of work. It's not like they'll force a dentist to become a Heart doctor or something. And it's not that easy to just suddentlly get rich especially if your at a working class were you wouldent even need such luxuries. Communism in other words is the ultimate Democracy, minus corporations , states , currency and goverment. Communism also erases lazyness since when someone is a doctor their a doctor because they wanted to become a doctor , not because of the money.
    Again, naivity. A complete disregard for the concept of supply and demand; also an unabashed and unreasonable faith that, given the choice between working and not working, people will choose working(And that there will be people who will actively choose to clean sewers.).

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    And how is that Perverted? Communism is worker self goverment. You can do what you want as long as you can do it. Which in the end you'll recieve what you need. Anyways shall we get back on topic?
    Communism does have some potential. It won't work well in a large country, but in small communities, it might.
    Again, naivity. A complete disregard for the concept of supply and demand; also an unabashed and unreasonable faith that, given the choice between working and not working, people will choose working(And that there will be people who will actively choose to clean sewers.).
    People do choose to clean sewers. People also choose to work. why do you think unemployment is such a hot-button issue? Ideally, under communism, people would be able to work and make a living based on their own choices.

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    Communism does have some potential. It won't work well in a large country, but in small communities, it might.
    It did, at least here. The Kibbutzim did pretty well for a while... then, as the country developed, and people strived for more money, possesions and liberty, they got shut down, and turned into normal places to live in.

    Also, in Communism, it doesn't matter WHAT you work in - everyone gets paid the same, or don't get paid at all. The government takes care of everyone equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
    People do choose to clean sewers. People also choose to work. why do you think unemployment is such a hot-button issue? Ideally, under communism, people would be able to work and make a living based on their own choices.
    Erm, they choose it through necessity. Because if they didn't do it, they would starve to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Angel
    Communism does have some potential. It won't work well in a large country, but in small communities, it might.
    It did, at least here. The Kibbutzim did pretty well for a while... then, as the country developed, and people strived for more money, possesions and liberty, they got shut down, and turned into normal places to live in.

    Also, in Communism, it doesn't matter WHAT you work in - everyone gets paid the same, or don't get paid at all. The government takes care of everyone equally.
    Communism is a stateless society and a Govermentless society. So a Communist goverment is a oximoron, there's only a Goverment (Weak on top of that) under Socailism. And whats so wrong with getting paid the same? Everyone will be paid a decent ammount of money and will recieve what they need.


    Erm, they choose it through necessity. Because if they didn't do it, they would starve to death.
    Like under Capitailism? They have to look for work and whatever they find they have to settle for it along with the low pay that is included to it. Under communism you can choose what you want to do as long as you can do it. Even if they need more of something else.

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    Erm, they choose it through necessity. Because if they didn't do it, they would starve to death.
    Well, yeah. Your point? It's still a choice. Some people choose to steal, some sell drugs, some clean sewers.
    Also, in Communism, it doesn't matter WHAT you work in - everyone gets paid the same, or don't get paid at all.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
    Also, in Communism, it doesn't matter WHAT you work in - everyone gets paid the same, or don't get paid at all.
    Exactly.
    Yeah, exactly why it's the most corrupt, vile system of economics ever conceived. A scientist who has put in years of their life to learn his trade deserves more money for it than the guy who works at the local Wendy's, because he's worked a lot harder in so doing. I can't see how anyone could ever advocate communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ?????
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
    Also, in Communism, it doesn't matter WHAT you work in - everyone gets paid the same, or don't get paid at all.
    Exactly.
    Yeah, exactly why it's the most corrupt, vile system of economics ever conceived. A scientist who has put in years of their life to learn his trade deserves more money for it than the guy who works at the local Wendy's, because he's worked a lot harder in so doing. I can't see how anyone could ever advocate communism.
    Their wont be Wendy's in a Communist society. And why is Communism so corrupt and "evil". Just want a explanation thats all.

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    Why wouldn't there be fast food in a communist society?

    Oh wait, that's right, because people are only supposed to take what they need. There's this little thing that goes against that idea; it's called human nature.

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    Oh wait, that's right, because people are only supposed to take what they need. There's this little thing that goes against that idea; it's called human nature.
    Ah, yes, the downfall of many an ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ?????
    Why wouldn't there be fast food in a communist society?

    Oh wait, that's right, because people are only supposed to take what they need. There's this little thing that goes against that idea; it's called human nature.
    Actually because in a communist society there's no corporations. And exactlly how does human nature goes against communism? The truth is that if your raised in a Capitailist society your greedier then someone who wasnt. What do you think the socialist transaction is for? It's to lessen the greed that they've developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
    Oh wait, that's right, because people are only supposed to take what they need. There's this little thing that goes against that idea; it's called human nature.
    Ah, yes, the downfall of many an ideal.
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    Hesus Chist and Monkeynuts, I've started a battle over communism!
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