a religious dictatorship

[Madame Adequate]

That's anarchy. What if I disagree with the citizens of my area and I don't want to give up my money?

By that point in time you'll have the same ammount of wealth as everyone else, which is middle class.

Do you know what Communism is? Communism is where the majority rules without question or opposition, without any constitution or even common set of laws to prevent them. Communism means that if the majority believe sculpture is not a valid use of time, there will be no sculpture. Communism means that, instead of a person having their own labor hours to sell to others, those others have the right to apply the labor hours wherever they feel it is most needed. If you believe anything else, you need to stop and think about how your idealistic theory will work in practise.

[Cloud No.9]

it worked fine in israel. til they got big ideas and ruined a few thousand years of good stuff. it can work.

[FFGuevara]

That's anarchy. What if I disagree with the citizens of my area and I don't want to give up my money?

By that point in time you'll have the same ammount of wealth as everyone else, which is middle class.

Do you know what Communism is? Communism is where the majority rules without question or opposition, without any constitution or even common set of laws to prevent them. Communism means that if the majority believe sculpture is not a valid use of time, there will be no sculpture. Communism means that, instead of a person having their own labor hours to sell to others, those others have the right to apply the labor hours wherever they feel it is most needed. If you believe anything else, you need to stop and think about how your idealistic theory will work in practise.

And why is that bad? Everyone can do what they want , at what time they want. And in return they recieve their need's. If you wanna learn and be educated you'll be educated. You wont be forced to work while in school.

[Madame Adequate]

And why is that bad? Everyone can do what they want , at what time they want. And in return they recieve their need's. If you wanna learn and be educated you'll be educated. You wont be forced to work while in school.

No, they can't do anything they want if everyone else decides it's not ok. That's the whole point. In Communism you don't own your own time, and you don't own yourself. 'The people' do, which is probably even worse than the State owning you. Especially as any random media scare will make pediatricians hated. What if 'the people' get convinced that black people are best suited for physical labor? What if 'the people' decide Christianity is a counterproductive religion? That is the power which Communism gives to people. There is no choice, there is only what you are ordered to do.

[FFGuevara]

No, they can't do anything they want if everyone else decides it's not ok. That's the whole point. In Communism you don't own your own time, and you don't own yourself. 'The people' do, which is probably even worse than the State owning you. Especially as any random media scare will make pediatricians hated. What if 'the people' get convinced that black people are best suited for physical labor? What if 'the people' decide Christianity is a counterproductive religion? That is the power which Communism gives to people. There is no choice, there is only what you are ordered to do.

Everyone is their own indivdual nobody "owns" you. How can slavery be cause if that sorta of ethecity is also part of the people? Communism is pure Atheist which means theres no god. Even though by the time the world is fully communist they probablly will even forget what Christianity is. You can do what you want as long as you dont hurt no one, everyone is a part of the community, everyone has a say in everything. For racism to haapen would be impossible like i said since minorities will also have power.

[Rengori]

Even though by the time the world is fully communist they probablly will even forget what Christianity is.

I highly doubt every bible will be destroyed by then.

[FFGuevara]

Maybe but nobody wont believe in them.

[Madame Adequate]

Everyone is their own indivdual nobody "owns" you. How can slavery be cause if that sorta of ethecity is also part of the people? Communism is pure Atheist which means theres no god. Even though by the time the world is fully communist they probablly will even forget what Christianity is. You can do what you want as long as you dont hurt no one, everyone is a part of the community, everyone has a say in everything. For racism to haapen would be impossible like i said since minorities will also have power.

Mob rule (Which is what the highest forms of democracy are.) makes institutionalised racism more than possible. Indeed it makes it pretty much inevitable. There is absolutely no way to reconcile the concept of freedom and the concept of owing anything to anyone else, other than their own right to freedom. Responsibility to others is a choice, not a duty.

[FFGuevara]

Mob rule (Which is what the highest forms of democracy are.) makes institutionalised racism more than possible. Indeed it makes it pretty much inevitable.

Everyone is in control. such Racist actions cannot be performed since not everyone will agree with it. Especially if the Majority is Atheist. Usually racism is caused by religious beliefs so if there arnt that mant people who are religious how can such belief be performed?

There is absolutely no way to reconcile the concept of freedom and the concept of owing anything to anyone else, other than their own right to freedom. Responsibility to others is a choice, not a duty.

Exactlly and in Communism its not a duty. Your not forced to choose for others and no one chooses for you.

[Madame Adequate]

Mob rule (Which is what the highest forms of democracy are.) makes institutionalised racism more than possible. Indeed it makes it pretty much inevitable.

Everyone is in control. such Racist actions cannot be performed since not everyone will agree with it. Especially if the Majority is Atheist. Usually racism is caused by religious beliefs so if there arnt that mant people who are religious how can such belief be performed?

I know plenty of racist athiest people, to begin with. Secondly, am I correct in thinking that every single individual will have the power to veto anything? What if some lunatic decides that life = suffering and therefore vetos the irrigation project?

There is absolutely no way to reconcile the concept of freedom and the concept of owing anything to anyone else, other than their own right to freedom. Responsibility to others is a choice, not a duty.

Exactlly and in Communism its not a duty. Your not forced to choose for others and no one chooses for you.

So how does a Communist society deal with people who simply don't work?

[War Angel]

So how does a Communist society deal with people who simply don't work?

The record for longest time without food for a human-being is around 90 days. A normal human, however, lasts for considerably shorter periods of time after being shot or gassed. Freezing to death in the Gulags tends to have similiar results.

[FFGuevara]

So how does a Communist society deal with people who simply don't work?

The record for longest time without food for a human-being is around 90 days. A normal human, however, lasts for considerably shorter periods of time after being shot or gassed. Freezing to death in the Gulags tends to have similiar results.

Are you actually judging that from US propaganda and Stalinism? Or did you even research what happens to none workers under Marxism? And to answer I'm my own MILF's question. Nothing happens,(No literally) they wont recieve nothing you dont work you wont recieve the benefits.

[Madame Adequate]

So how does a Communist society deal with people who simply don't work?

The record for longest time without food for a human-being is around 90 days. A normal human, however, lasts for considerably shorter periods of time after being shot or gassed. Freezing to death in the Gulags tends to have similiar results.

Are you actually judging that from US propaganda and Stalinism? Or did you even research what happens to none workers under Marxism? And to answer I'm my own MILF's question. Nothing happens,(No literally) they wont recieve nothing you dont work you wont recieve the benefits.

So they are working under threat of starvation. How is this in any way not force?

[Cloud No.9]

that's also the threat under laissez faire capatilism.

[War Angel]

they wont recieve nothing you dont work you wont recieve the benefits.

Exactly. You're not negating my point (US propoganda? WTF?). They recieve nothing, and since you can't BUY anything, they startve to death. Well, I suppose they could live on refuse and life in the wild or something... but that's the way to live for a very harsh individual - not a large, lazy majority.