I agree with you there- in fact, that's what communism originally meant, people who lived in communes, such as the English quakers and diggers, or the American Amish. Of course, they all differed in their veiws, but their ideas eventually lead to the sort of stuff like Marx.Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara
Really, no societey works outside a small group, even democracy- for true democaracy, everyone must be able to voice their own opinion, but over a nation that would mean constant refferenedums. Hence the system of representational democracy. The trick is to find the sytem which is least broken.
I think it's unfair that people still use Marx and Hardie and the like as examples of 'Why socialism sucks'. These guys were writing years ago, what the say is obviosuly outdated! While Smith, on the other hand, is just about as relevant as ever (greed has always come naturally).
Unfortuanately, modern socialists tend to be political commentators, rather than creating political systems. Michael Moore, for instance. He keeps (rightfully) criticising the capitalist regime, but, strangely, hasn't really ofered any real alternative.
EDIT: Ussually I thrive on this kind of crap, but to me it seems the same old argument that's lasted centuries. I mean, Jesus was doing socialism 2000 years ago, and it didn't sink in. Some people always try to justify their greed. So, I'm either going to ignore this, or start an E0FF revolution. First ten members get to be Commisars.




