oh it wasnt, i read in an article that it was...oh jeez false info given to a 13 year old
oh it wasnt, i read in an article that it was...oh jeez false info given to a 13 year old
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bin laden is from saudi. most of the hijackers were from saudi. but saudi weren't in on it on an official level.
they have a hot bed of terrorism (having us troops on your soil because you have oil makes people quite bitter for some reason) but it's underground. noone has any idea how big or powerful it is in saudi arabia. there have been huge differences in guesses for how many members there are in suadi arabia.
the government though tries to crack down but it's hard and it's not always successful. thought they have had a few good hits in the last few years. the yanks are putting pressure on you see.
but no it's an underground movement which noone really understands.
the taliban wer afghanistan's government. they let al-qaeda have bases there. it suited their views. and al-qaeda liked afghanistan as it is where it was formed. they had spent time in sudan when the sudanese had gave them hospitality but after the embassy bombings and america had bombed them they weren't too keen on having al-qaeda around. so they headed back to where the were formed. and the taliban liked having a little militia there. cia trained of course. only the best for the taliban.
what degree the taliban actually had in 9-11 is debatable. had degree iraq had to do with it isn't. they had none. saudi may have had by a lack of action. but that again is up for debate. but the only ones that were in on it were al-qaeda.
[QUOTE=herbie08]First off, Bush may be concerned about power. Hell, every leader in the world is probably concernend with power. But that's not why the soldiers are fighting in Iraq. In this country, there is very little power in being in the military, even if you're a high ranking officer. It's not like America's civil war where Generals were Gods on the battlefield. Soldiers fight for other reasons. Those reasons are usually pretty simple, they care for somebody enough to either protect them or try to help them. The soldiers in Iraq are helping the Iraqis. That's not what I think, that's what the Iraqis themselves think. Remember that statue of Saddam that was torn down when American troops came into Baghdad? Did you know that the man who built that statue, the man who was forced to make that statue or die, took the bronze from the fallen statue and rebuilt it into a memorial of an American soldier kneeling in front of the grave of one of his fallen comrades while a little Iraqi girl stands beside him with a consoling hand on his shoulder? Why do you think he went and did a thing like that? Because regardless of what the media would like you to believe, most people in Iraq are a hell of a lot happier now than they were when Suddam was in control. And they thank America for that. That's why soldiers fight.
Originally Posted by nik0tine
And when did we kill any innocents? The only innocents that have died in this war died at the hands of insurgents and terrorists. I challenge you to find a single case where American soldiers knowingly killed innocent people.You imply that because a fanatical terrorist killed American innocents it is okay for America to go and kill more innocents.
You know what makes me really sad? Too many people are worried about the politics here and fail to see any of the good things that have actually happened. Seriously, guys, did any of you think that Saddam was a good guy? I really don't give twos about why we went over there. I don't care if it was WMDs or for oil. Bush wants oil, good for him; he's only in office another two years anyway. Then he'll be out, and we'll have a new president, and everyone can bitch about him next. But you know what will have changed? People in Iraq will have more freedom than they've had in a good long time. You'll excuse me if I'm not sorry that that happened. We helped people out, and that's really all I care about.
You just said everything I've wanted to say for so long in this forum <3
this war was more unneccasary then me running into a brick wall, just for laughs
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Before the war:
USA: Not enough oil
Iraq: Plenty of oil
USA's politicans:
After the war:
USA: Plenty of oil
Iraq: Not enough oil
USA's politicans:
To everyone who supports the war: You're all wrong. Listen to nik0tine, because everything he says is correct.
america didn't actually gain much oil by invading iraq.
it did gain something far more important. it gained another stronghold in the middle east. it is also convinetly right beside iran. which afghanistan was as well. which provides a nice bit of land to invade from.
Ok, sorry then. I always thought it was mainly about the oil.
if america were a guy id kick it in the nuts
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If this were true, oil wouldn't cost $3.50 a gallon.
After the war:
USA: Plenty of oil
Iraq: Not enough oil
USA's politicans:
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
Come now that's not the Vermonter way YOU MUST BE A TRANSPLANT!
I hate vermont.........thanks for reminding me i live there.........
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the only way to prevent 9-11 ever happening again would to be invade every country who may have the smallest thing to do with terrorism. then round up everyone who you think may have the slightest thing to do with terrorism and put them all in a camp and hold them there indefinetly.
oh.........
Maybe we could prevent 9-11 if we werent so damn power hungry
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true but with the npac in power i don't see it happening.
I dont see why we had to invade.......if we needed oil we could have just asked them.
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