iraq never had anything to do with 9-11. not a sasauge. hee haw. not a single little thing. and again i will give you a little history lesson.

after the revolutions in iraq and war in afghanistan against the russians bin laden and a few of his mates made al qaeda. they wanted to the muslim world to follow iran's example. the tried a few coups and failed.

bin laden hated anything non-muslim, the west, macdonalds, nudey bits on tv. and........ iraq. a secular state on "muslim ground" and more greatly some of it was holy grounds in the hands of a secular state. this did not please our bearded terrorist. so when the iraq-iran war started he knew which side he was on. the side of the muslim state. and a few his followers went to fight in a holy war (jihad) against a secular invader (backed by america as well). the jihad would always be still running for bin laden.

bin laden at this time was still rather friendly with the west. they had their difference but there was not the big thing there is now. he was not a terrorist at the time just a guy they had trained in afghanistan busy fighting more wars. he wasn't on the radar.

he came back on the radar during the gulf war. iraq was being aggressive again and yet again bin laden wanted to send troops. but his doctrine was stronger and he would not send men to help quwait who were receiving aid from america.

he in fact asked the saudi royal family (his home country) if they wanted a few troops to defend against a looming iraqi army. the saudi's snubbed him. they took help from america. that was the final straw. he declared holy war om america who were now in his home country and within a short time the african embassy bombings would be detonated.

but he still hated iraq. he hated the secular state on muslim ground. and he hated the west and he hated the saudi's.

on the topic of saudi. most the 9-11 bombers originated from there. it's a hot bed for terrorist wanna-be's though the government does do it's job in trying to suppress such tendencies.

but as we can see bin laden never wanted anything to do with iraq. he really wanted it's destruction. they didn't cooperate. especially while hussein was busy killing, torturing and gassing muslims either. bin laden would have been happy with sadamme's head on a stake.

and a man with such a heavy doctine with bin laden is not the type of man to cooperate with an enemey even for a common goal. it's unholy. not to be done. doesn't fit in his way of thinking. would not happen.

on the topic of the actual soldiers i will bring up the nuremburg principle of taking orders is not an excuse to commit a crime and since the war in iraq is illegal as it was not in defence, in response to genocide or allowed by the un the war is illegal and a war crime. and the soliders fighting it are automatically criminalized.

but we've screwed up now. it would not be clever to leave the country in the mess it is. we will need to be stationed there for many years to come. and take the casualties. the deaths of the soldiers is the price the people will pay for this war. and it was avoidable.