The thing with telling them to organize themselves out, I disagree with on many levels, but I'll only name one and leave the rest to others. So if they don't fix themselves enough for you to want to help them, that's a small minority making that choice most of the time, they're usually not the ones most hurt, so what's in it for them. Meanwhile the people we should be helping have very little power usually and couldn't change much. And oh yeah, by what you said if they fail to reach that point we leave them, so that their kids who did nothing, they deserve to live lives with aids and poverty to, good to know they earned it (this is what it sounds like what you said would immediately lead to). And all the people with no power good to know it's their fault. If I mistook what you said sorry but this is what it sounded like.
