One question, why are you so intent on getting us to believe we're all doomed and going to die like usual?
One question, why are you so intent on getting us to believe we're all doomed and going to die like usual?
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not all of us. alot of us. spanish flu killed 5% of the world's population. we are looking at a virus far worse than that. one that spreads like flu, kills many people and is resistant to the only thing we have to fight it.
The way to fight is to reduce it's effects, stuff for sinuses and breathing.
If people get the Flu Jab then this virus has lesser chance and a delay of mutation.
It could mutate tomorrow It could mutate in 30 years who knows exactly when but it will happen, the H5N1 strain isn't human to human YET.
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but it is human-human. the question is whether the human-human strain came with the migrating birds to europe.
There is no Human to Human In Europe the scare is that the current strain in Europe will Mutate.
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it could well do. or at some point just be brought from vietnam and thailand. either by tourists, food or migrating birds.
also bird flu is a nasty little disease when it infects people. it infects the lungs which is very odd as lung cells normally aren't infected. it then makes your lungs bleed causing you to drown in your own bodily fluid.
Depends on luck, Immune system and infection severity.
Depending on medication you can take and stuff, not for the virus but the damage, that's one way.
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all diseases depend on luck and your immune system (actually not really true with bird flu as it tends to infect the strongest).
spanish flu was the same. but i wouldn't shrug that off at all. it was a highly highly dangerous disease and what we are facing is stronger and breaks our usual lines of defence. no cure, no vaccine, no containment. it's a simple matter of hope. but it will hit and it will be big.
Thats what they THINK.
There are things to ease the damage but they won't reveal it, If Tamiflu won't do anything why are we stockpiling?
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For the same reason they ran the "duck and cover" videos during the cold war. Not becuase there's a CHANCE IN HELL that it'll work (and no informed person believes otherwise), but because it'll keep people from panicking just a little bit longer. Admirable propaganda, it'll probably save lives in the long run. But Tamiflu, itself, is useless against this stuff.
SAID to be, they got something to battle it and this stuff maybe not Tamiflu, you never know what they maybe doing, It'll hit next winter my guess, hitting this winter, seriously doubt it.
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while they're finding a cure in a year for this disease maybe on the way they'll find a cure for stuff like yellow fever, whooping cough, cholera, and other diseases we have spent the last 50 years trying to cure.
cures do not happen in a few years. it has never happened.
tamiflu is all we have. and it is useless against the human to human strain seen in vietnam.
avain flu kills the same way chlorine gas does. the only way to stop that damage is too stop the bleeding of the lungs. that is really hard to do and normally requires an operation.
You could try draining the lungs. But that won't work, as fluids will just continue building. If you can counter the part where the patient drowns on his own blood, they'll eventually just bleed to death. We don't have the resources to slow the disease enough. Besides, Influenza causes fevers that can kill all by themselves. Normal flu, when it has fatalities, is usually the fever that kills. Avian and Spanish won't cause too much worse a fever, it'll just last for days instead of hours. You can't keep a weakened body on anti-fever drugs that long without doing more harm than good.
There is ONE type drug that might work. They're used against HIV that kill viral infected cells. A virus enters a cell and starts over-riding the cell's function, making it produce more virii. This kills the cell, regardless. But these drugs COULD fight the infection that way. Only one problem- the price tag on this stuff is disturbingly high, and it will only slow the disease, not stop it.
No, in two years, we won't have a cure. In five, we won't have a cure. In 10, we MIGHT have a cure. In 20, we may have a cure. In 30, we'll probably have a cure. By then, of course, it won't matter much.
You're right on one thing- we'll probably be safe this winter. Cold weather weakens flu strains, they die in cold air. Actual death, not dormancy.
true but flu normally spreads in winter anyway. it spends most of it's time inside the body which is at a constant nice and warm temperature. the reason why things spread so well in winter is that we tend to group together. that's why we call get colds and flus at that time of year.
there is no gurantee of being safe this winter. we have no idea what strain is where. the human strain could now be in turkey, romania, russia and greece. we have no idea. and even if it is or even if it isn't. even if the migrating birds don't spread it here. some unlucky tourist, businessman, meat will.
The H5N1 was confirmed in Turkey but unsure about Romania.
There is still a few ways to slow down it's coming to our isles.
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