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  • Selphie

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  • Diablos

    8 25.81%
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Thread: Vividarium Intervigilium Viator

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    I'm still thinking for the last part....hihihi
    its kinda hard because there are lots of definitions for the word lined (to put,or serve as, a lining in,a length,to measure or to mark lines)


    Ok here it is
    XERAMPELINAE(Red clothes)- Ultimecia
    VENUS(Love) - Ultimecia's lost love http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=71111
    VIGIL(Watchmen) - Ultimecia watched the SeeD grew for a long time
    INTERVIGILIUM (Sleep) - We can consider this as "waiting" for Ultimecia's revenge for all SeeD's
    JUDICIUM (Judgment) - Ultimecia's Hell's Judgement magic/attack
    IGNUS (Fire) - Her passion to eliminate all SeeD's for vengeance
    VIVIDARIUM (Garden) - Garden
    INANDANTIA (Flood) - Remember the white SeeD's corpses lying near the beach in the orphanage? (flood of corpses or the blood of the dead people flooded the beach)
    VIATOR (Messenger) - Ultimecia
    INAUDAX (Cowardice) - People are afraid of all sorceress
    XIPHIAS (Swordfish) - We can consider this as what Rinoa said to Squall "If my soul became corrupt and evil, I want your sword to pierce my heart" or maybe Squall's sword that defeated Ultimecia or this Seifer as Ultimecia's knight...knight do have swords right?
    XYSTUS (Tree-Lined Road) - Ultimecia's three transformations to the road of destruction or maybe Ultimecia controlling the three sorceress Edea,Adel and Rinoa for the road of extinction of all SeeD's
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    The world of silence maybe a cold and bitter one; like the deep wastes of the arctic regions, it is fit for neither man nor beast. Holding one’s tongue may be prudent, but it is an act of rejection; silence build walls – and walls are symbols of failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
    i wonder where future esthar is? lol. i'd expect him to be all over this kind of thread..
    he said he was having technical difficulties...

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    when in doubt vote for the pupu.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
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    LOL
    i misaread that and thought it said
    "when in doubt go pupu"

    but yeah seek the words of the wise dwarf

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    Vote for Pedro

    back to thread...

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    i believe it is cid
    "in the garden sleeps a messenger"

    garden - well Garden
    Sleeps - waits patiently for moment when he can annouce the truth
    messenger - his message that SeeDs are created to destory the sorceresses of each era...

    to cut this in short - Cid waits patiently for the right moment where he can tell Squall the true meaning of SeeD...

    However i can also believe it to be Norg but i doubt that it is him.
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    i dont think the creators put so much thougt into 1 silly little phrase

    there are sooooooooooooo many people who we can describe as "in the garden sleeps a messenger" but we ll never know only square will

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    hmph...another over anylzing thread...T_T

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    but still theyre fun to discuss

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    No more's making theories....
    theories are nice to read some are interesting...

    The world of silence maybe a cold and bitter one; like the deep wastes of the arctic regions, it is fit for neither man nor beast. Holding one’s tongue may be prudent, but it is an act of rejection; silence build walls – and walls are symbols of failure.

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    If you never search, you will not discover...(but strange theories do got old),
    I think that there is a clue in Liberi Fatali

    Wake up from your dream, my children.
    There is no cradle.
    Wake up from your dreams, fated children.
    The dream is not going.


    Arise.
    Discover the truth of the Garden.


    Burn with truth
    Scorch the world of evil.
    Burn with truth
    Set fire to the world of darkeness.

    Goodbye, children,
    From the days of destiny

    The part highlighted in yellow seems important to me, and the very last line as well, but I don't really know what to make of it.

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    My best guess is that the messenger is Ellone.
    She is the one who takes people´s counsciousness making people learn from the past.
    I believe that Rinoa=Ellone so the garden could be the flower field and the phrase thus refers to the game intro (it was a dream wasn´t it?).
    Also,the picture looks a little like the orphanage which is near the flower field.

    My interpretation on the pictures.

    Vividarium-Looks like Esthar
    Intervigilium-Looks like Norg sleeping.Symbolizes the sleeping concept seen through the game.

    Viator-I think it can be seen a city and the top of a tower-Symbolizes the communications tower.

    Iudicium-There is a crater on the picture.Symbolizes Lunatic Pandora and the lunar cry.

    Inandantia-There were many physical catastrophes created artificially to help create Time Compression (WOTC) without people noticed it.It refers to floods.

    Ignus-The fire cavern has a vulcan inside which will erupt on the far future melting the ice on Trabia which will therefore cause a flood.This will make the temperature grow.
    This eruption is what we saw on space.
    Probably created artificially to make Time Compression (WOTC) unnoticed.

    Xerampelinae-Julia Heartilly (=Edea=Ulti)

    Vigil-Laguna(Vascaroon),Kyros and Ward watching over Ulti´s castle.

    Venus-Love is not subjected to time and space.Also symbolizes the Love between Laguna and Julia being between these two pictures.

    Swordfish-Balamb fish?Badamb fish?Squall´s gunblade?No clue.

    Inaudax-Hyne lefting the body of a sorceress.

    Tree-line road-Horizon bridge.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Intervigilium-Looks like Norg sleeping.Symbolizes the sleeping concept seen through the game.
    You mean the "Liberi Fatali" posted one post earlier than yours or do you mean something else about sleeping concept?

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Iudicium-There is a crater on the picture.Symbolizes Lunatic Pandora and the lunar cry.
    Do you mean "JUDICIUM"? What do the Lunatic Pandora or the Lunar Cry had to do with "Judgement"...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Swordfish-Balamb fish?Badamb fish?Squall´s gunblade?No clue.
    Tree-line road-Horizon bridge.
    You got this two interpretations same as mine. For the Swordfish, I interpret in as Squall's gunblade cause it is a blade attached to a gun pretty much like a "sword" attached to a fish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Inaudax-Hyne lefting the body of a sorceress.
    I think this interpretation is pretty good.....Do you mean Hyne cast away his body and flee as told in the legend or you mean the "X" of yours that go around possessing people....

    The overall interpretations of your picture is something like....

    In Esthar sleeps(or Norg sleep) a communication tower......

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    My best guess is that the messenger is Ellone.
    She is the one who takes people´s counsciousness making people learn from the past.
    I believe that Rinoa=Ellone so the garden could be the flower field and the phrase thus refers to the game intro (it was a dream wasn´t it?).
    Also,the picture looks a little like the orphanage which is near the flower field.
    I think the big picture must have some linkage with those of the small pictures.....but yours doesn't.....

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    EDIT: Finaly, we get to hear from Future Esthar! Don't be a stranger, ok?

    Those interpitation are legitimate. But I wonder, is there anything that would connect all of them together?

    Ellone is the messenger? *sigh* I honestly don't know who the messenger could be.

    WAIT!! it just hit me!! ULTIMECIA is the messenger. Just listen.

    Let's say that Ultimecia was a SeeD in her time. I can't go any further with this, someone els will have to think about it because I can not.
    ...............................................................................................

    There are only so many characters in the game, ONE of them HAS to be it.


    Angelo, Edea, Laguna, Quistis, Rinoa, Seifer, Selphie, Squall,
    Zell, Ward, Ultimecia, NORG, Nida, Xu, Dr. Odine, Adel,
    Queen of Cards, Raijin, Fujin, Dr. Kadowaki, Biggs, Wedge,
    Ma Dincht, Ellone, Cid, Brothers, Cafeteria Lady's Son, Chocoboy,
    Martine, Flo, Raine, Julia, Irvine, Jack, Moomba, Mr. Monkey,
    Mean Guy, Zone, Pupu, A Shumi, Vinzer Deling, Mayor Dobe, General Caraway


    Bahamut Carbuncle Diablos Alexander Eden Gilgamesh Ifrit Leviathan Minotaur Quezacotl Sacred Siren Sheva Griever Doomtrain Cerberus Odin Pheonix Chocobo Pandemona Toneberry

    did I get them all? I'm sure there might be a few people who you only meet once, but we can safely assume that they aren't it.
    ***********************************************

    We could start ruling out who it could NOT be.
    We know that it isn't: Mean Guy, Cafeteria Lady's Son, Mr. Monkey, but who els, I'm stumped here. Why couldn't it be those three, I don't know, it's just a hunch.
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