but moral philosophy is what this is.

we are faced with two choices here. to let americans die but take the moral high ground and be better than our enemies. or torture these people (lets remember that torture is also useless) and be no better than them. and then what war are we fighting? are we in the moral right if we torture people? are we any better than these people if we drop to such a level? then what is this war for? freedom? justice? the rights of man? and we're going to win this by torture? what moral high ground is that?