okay then.

yes sacrficing other is the right thing to do. we went to war on the idea that we were on the moral right. people will die to keep it that way. unless you want to make this a pointless war replacing one torturer we cannoy drop to that level. the geneva convention and human rights act will not be broken no matter what the cost.

i'd rather be dead than tortured. in america now after bush helpfully changed the definition of torture to having to have been maimed by it. i would rather be dead than tortured and maimed.

"Why do we hold elections when we're just going to get an idiot in office no matter who wins? Why do we bother to protect people who are just going to complain that we are evil anyway? Why do we try to spare innocents instead of target them? Why don't we just nuke the entire country of Iraq until it becomes a glowing crater? Why do we stop people from torturing prisoners for the fun of it? Why do we prosecute rapists? Why do we put murderers to death?"

because america likes to think it has morality left.

no answer my question. why do we replace one torturer with another?