i just quote the program.

and palestine is within israel. it is under occupation after the wars. it is not it's own country. it is a stateless nation.

the geneva convention sets down in writing and has been for ages now that torture is forbidden. under any circumstances. the human rights act echoed it. the rules of war predate it. torture is not acceptable as you are not torturing soldiers. you are torturing prisoners. people who are wholly dependant on you.

back in nuremburg we hung people for crimes of torture. in my eyes there should be no difference between a nazi soldier who commits the act and an american. tried and given punishment.

torture is altogether pointless. it does not work. unless you believe that the the with hunts were good and proper.

that is the level of intelligence we are dealing with that comes from torture. put enough suffering on a person and they will do what it takes to stop it. an innocent person will confess to stop the pain. a guilty person will confess as well. but if he is waiting for something then he is going to lie. he will hold two thoughts in his mind. one that he will need his suffering to end. but he has a mission as well. and will do what it takes to succeed. no you need to make the pain so great that that doesn't matter.

and that is when you need to start electrocuting him, beating him, burning him, using acid. and i believe those we the exact same methods used under sadamme's government.

are we so much better now?