becaused i haven't experienced war i can't say what is right and wrong? did you experience the holocaust? can you tell me the pro's and con's of it? did you experience the dying in africa? can you tell me if that is right or wrong?

you do not need experience to judge.

the geneva convention is not just a document. it is law. and it is in fact international law. two pieces of text are the highest in this world. the geneva convention and the human rights act. those two (as well as many others). come before any other in this world. they come before your morals and your countries laws. they are the most important international law and bind everyone and everything. and breaking them can carry the heaviest penalties.

torture as we have discussed before does not prevent killings. it takes too long a time. guy fawkes took a few days. people in quantanamo took a few months. bombs and ambushes don't sit around too long. they go off within hours of being planted. they aren't left to be found and disarmed. they are detonated as soon as possible.

and unlike you war angel i would never salute mengel, lindy england, or any other torturer. i'd look at in him the same way i look at something i would wipe off my boot. there is no justification.

and udsuna tell me does this man look honorable to you?

http://www.channel4.com/news/microsi...ic-1863109.jpg

are these honorable tools of war?

http://www.channel4.com/news/microsi...ic-2010350.jpg

is this an honorable act?

http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/iraq_040506_WaPo1.jpg

did this man understand and respect his torturer?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4...rman_ap300.jpg

no the promise in battle is that you don't drop this far. there are places you just don't go. you don't use landmines, you don't use flamethrowers, you don't kill the unarmed, and you do not torture prisoners.

there is law against torture enjoyed or not. i shivver to think of mengel hugging his children. and it's a job you can refuse. nuremburg principle infact states you need to. and there is no reason except for enjoyment.

you can't spend days torturing a man when you need information in 3 hours.