stress positions look annoying. Though a couple of them look like some of the wrestling exercises we have done... though those only last minutes generally. So I know that would end up being .. painful ... though how I am not sure.
Right spliting... that sounds kinda ouchy... and I know many would definately not be able to put up with it. Though I also know some who could.
Oh yeah.. the spliting.. I wonder... that may actually be able to cause some long lasting damage, though I have no clue.
The 'other' variation on Water torture was what I thought it was before I looked it up. The fake drowning I do not really aggree with. It would likely be too easy to actually drown them or cause other injuries(perhaps permanent) due to water in the lung.
I did mention that burning sounded... a bit on the extreme side. As for smashed knees.. I know that you may never truely recover from that so I am of course against that.(a teacher of mine broke a knee cap once years upon years ago.. and she still can't walk quite right even with all the thearpy and stuff she went through).
I will have to do some thinking to find one that is both plausable to happen and plausable to allow. If you just want one that I seriousally doubt will ever happen but in which I would consider it justified/allowable(make him do something constructive for the one he hurt if you want), is:shun. if you can find me a plausible circumstance for allowing rape i will be shocked.
Lets say this is a comic book world. With a comic book villian, but with a twisted villian. This villian has planted a nuclear bomb somewhere near the center of the planet and will detonate it, unless an unfortunate man that he selected rapes an unfortunate women he selected. Lets say there is no other possible way to stop him. And lets say by some miracle we know he is telling the truth and will give up afterwards(not likely.. but I am just splewing a perfect scenario.. weaken the confictions and dangers somewhat and you might get something that might happen once in a million years, though it would also weaken the ability for it to be justified.. though I think it would be possible for it justifiable in this world... it is so unlikely that I would bet against it happening(and I aint' a betting man)).
The question here is this. Should the man rape the women, thus, saving the lives of billions for the price of one? Or should he hold out and cause the destruction of everything by a madman? Quite frankly I think they should save the whole world. It sucks and it is awful but quite justifiable.
Now as I said if you lower it somewhat to try to bring it to this world it would be more like, a bomb is set in a populated building(say several thousand at stake at least). The police squad can't get there in time and the guy who has the bomb has said he will deactivate it if a certian man rapes a certian lady(keep in mind the lady would be unaware of such a deal... if she willing submits it isn't exactly rape(since rape is against thier will)). Now he can't be sure the madman will keep his promise.. but it is certian that if he doesn't the bomb will go boom and kill or at least harm everyone there. Now what should he do? Lets just assume for scenario sake(since I can't think of every plausable scenario) that there is no other way to stop him in time. So what is it, the lives of thousands.. for one? Or have them all die, including the lady? Recovery from Rape is pausable... but recovery from being blown into itty bitty pieces is even tougher to my knowledge.
All unlikely but the second could possibly happen once in a million or so years.
Not that I am saying we should go around raping people or anything.. just that in a blue moon somthing may come up in which there is NO better option. That is how I view torture. There are likely at least some scenarios where it is justifiable and perhaps quite appropriate. It shouldn't be used as a catch all, rather as a last resort... and it should be done with vengence or menece... but care. In other words try to do as little long lasting harm as possible.
As for the naked men being put in those positions-
that is still rape though the rapist are not involved. So it should still be treated as such. I fail to see the reasoning in that. Though if someone can explain the reason.. the should feel free to do so.. I am somewhat prejudiced against rape, and thus may not see reasons when there are reasons. You should not let self-rightouesness and anger over ride ones logical sense.Originally Posted by dictionary.com
Edit- for two reasons
A)Quite true, A good offense is a good defense. Though it is also true a good defense can be a good offense. But it is much more difficult to pull that off from what I have read and seen.
B) In the example above it could be argued that the guy didn't rape the women, rather the criminal raped them both... however, I know many people who would consider both as criminal.
