taking orders is not an excuse. simple nuremburg principle. the defining one in fact. she performed torture not out of duty (there is not such thing) but out of self determination. she smiled for the same reason as all the other soldiers there. you can look at many other stories of abuse and torture and we can see similar patterns. the laughing and fun had by gaurds by inflicting pain on others. one story i will try and find later shows how deep this goes.

the kubark manual. after a little while trying to find it i did manage to get a link.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0397/kub_ix.htm

i disagree with the majority of the document but for the sake of reference we can look at what the cia think of painful torture. IX h.

basicly it doesn't work in any circumstance. the cia's view. there is your intelligence expert.

i studied logic as part of rmpe. and what we see in iraq is a pattern. yes somedays are worse than others and some days don't follow a pattern. but the massive rise in violence and execution of berg and the rises in violence when further things were released shows a pattern of revenge.