it actually says it can become a power struggle and increases his will to resist, if he is guilty he feels punished and so the job is done for him.

many people may also feel vindicated in their actions. if an american soldier is torturing you why feel bad about that bomb his friend's truck is about to run over?

now the problem still remains with the kubark method. time. it does not give quick results and so is useless in a war scenario.

and yes it is a how to guide. but it is one that totally discredits painful torture (that is why i linked it) in the same way american soldiers are using.

and that little story i promised you about the way in which torture was committed. i forgot to give it but i think it's okay right now. it's about our friend mr dilawar. one of the two beaten to death by his knees.

When beaten, he repeatedly cried "Allah!" The outcry appears to have amused U.S. military personnel, as the act of striking him in order to provoke a scream of "Allah!" eventually "became a kind of running joke," according to one of the MP's. "People kept showing up to give this detainee a common peroneal strike just to hear him scream out 'Allah,' " he said. "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes."

i disagree with the kubark manual. it is not new in fact. and has been tried before. it was the same methods used in ireland against the ira. it produced two famous convitions, the birmingham six and gthe guildford four.