Phoenix is the new L.A., meaning this kind of stuff is inevit....inev....inevitable.
Phoenix is the new L.A., meaning this kind of stuff is inevit....inev....inevitable.
Good. I hate the enviornment, too.Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
I don't hate it, but it doesn't take precedence over Humanity.
Shouldn't you care about the enviroment first seeing as humanity and everything else is screwed without one? o__O
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that is true dmka. but america loves it money sooooo much nothing else matters.
Cloud, this isn't a thread about Americans or their government being money hungry. No, we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty, and I'm angry we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty, but this isn't a thread about the Kyoto Treaty. This is a thread about smog. Every industrialized nation has pollution problems, every large city in every industrialized nation has smog problems. If you want to talk about the enviornmental problems of Los Angeles, or the environmental problems of anywhere else in the world, feel free to do it. But stay on topic.
Anyway, smog and it's relatives are becoming more and more commonplace on the east coast. I'm twenty years old, I live in a very rurual area, and I've noticed a marked increase in the general haze around here, especially when I go to work in the city. It's absolutely NOTHING like the pictures I've seen of places on the West Coast and South Western US, but I don't think it's anything to sneeze at, either. I'm afraid if the East Coast, especially Appalachia, doesn't develop tougher emmisions standards, this will become just as much of a problem.
Also, I think that there should be very strict federal emissions standards that apply to every state. Why? Because, in reality, Western North Carolina HAS decent emissions standards for vehicles and our few factories. However, Eastern Tennesse is basically a free for all in pollution. And which way do you think the winds blow and the rivers flow? East! I can honestly say, that at the very least half of our haze problems and most likely 3/4 of the horror called the French Broad River is the fault of Eastern Tennessian factories. Namely, Champion Paper.
But those are all local problems and I'm sure no one even knows what I'm talking about. xD
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i am on topic. the unwillingness for the american government to prevent air pollution is because it brings in money. if getting rid of air pollution was not going to harm the economy then it would be done. but instead it just harms the people.
And harming the economy will harm the people, too. Imagine that.
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yeah cos lungs < money
So, would you suggest we go back to the middle ages, where we get all our energy from windmills, or nothing at all? Or are you just trying to come up with more reasons to hate America?
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So anyway, I live in Atlanta and we have disgusting smog too. It's almost all from automobile exhaust, and it's disgusting. I used to live in Cincinnati, which has similar smog problems too, but not as bad.
Not really, seeing as once it becomes a serious issue (Ie people need gas masks to go outside) there'll be plenty of people ready to fix it up. And there's always space. Anything that gets us colonizing other worlds is good. And if we go do it because we screwed Earth up, well, then we'll just make sure we get it right on a hundred other planets. I'm not worried and I won't be for a very long time.
Last edited by Madame Adequate; 10-17-2005 at 03:16 PM.
you can just attach electrolic cleaners to stacks, you can stop driving suvs, you can start looking for alternative energy sources.
if lung cancer is the sign of a better times. then count me out.
It's not like we can just snap our fingers and BAM - we have a new fuel source, and our entire industry has been instantly converted to run off of it. This kind of thing takes a lot time, and believe me, a lot of money is spent on research for that kind of thing.
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You can't well stop driving SUVs if you have half a dozen people you need to be moving around, can you? And yes, smaller families are the order of the day in that respect but it might surprise some to learn that some families already exist. So what're we to do, kill all but the first borns?
And apparently you've not been paying attention to just how many people are researching just how many alternate fuel sources. Not only is there the obvious stuff like thermal, hydro, wind, and solar power, there are fuel cells, cold fusion, biomass of various forms, we're refining nuclear power, you're probably against it but we're working on thermodepolymerization, and plenty more things besides.
And once more: If you don't like the use of energy, stop contributing to it. If you have to, as you claim, use it, then stop complaining because it's obviously providing you with a necessary function.
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