Oh crap i forgot a whole chunk of em
Wild arms I-III
Chrono cross
chrono trigger
Fire emblem path of radiance
Tales of symphonia
alundra
alundra II
RPG maker I-II
Oh crap i forgot a whole chunk of em
Wild arms I-III
Chrono cross
chrono trigger
Fire emblem path of radiance
Tales of symphonia
alundra
alundra II
RPG maker I-II
Owen made this sig. R.I.P.
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XI
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trgger
Breath Of Fire
Breath Of Fire II
You said that last time.Originally Posted by v.e.n.o.m.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
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Uh, Zelda is an RPG. You play the role of Link in every game. Sure, it has an action battle system, but then so does Final Fantasy Adventure, Secret of Mana, and Seiken Densetsu 3.
Super Mario RPG
Earthbound
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 6 (3 US)
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 4 (2 US)
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Chrono Cross
Parasite Eve
Star Ocean 2
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Xenosaga
Suikoden 2
Guardian's Crusade
Threads of Fate
Brave Fencer Musashi
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Lost Kingdoms
Phantasy Star Online Ep. 1 & 2
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time/Master Quest
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda
Legend of Zelda: Link's Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 2
Bahamut Lagoon
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu 3
Illusion of Gaia
Terranigma
Shadowrun
Tales of Phantasia
Star Ocean
Romancing SaGa 3
Lufia
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals
Paladin's Quest (Lennus)
7th Saga
Secret of the Stars
Robotrek
Rudora's Treasure
Treasure Hunter G
Pokemon Blue
Pokemon Yellow
Pokemon Silver
Pokemon Gold
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
... and that's all I got for right now.
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Has anyone mentioned D&D yet? My brothers got me into that when I was like ... 6 and had no clue what was going on. But I sure loved rolling die.
For NES my list would be simple. Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior. Until emulation came about of course
For SNES, also simple, as I got it very late in life. But with some prize games. FF4, Chrono Trigger. Secret of Mana, and FF6.
For Genesis. Bit longer, as I was on SEGA's team during the Sega Vs Nintendo wars. Shining series ruled. I had Shining in the Darkness. Shining Force 1 and 2. (And to note I had Shining Force Gaiden 2 on GameGear) Sega Channel helped me get into wonderful games like Phantasy Star 2, 3 and 4. Sword of Vermilion. Arcus Odyssey <3 and Light Crusader. Oh and there was also the gem known as Landstalker.
I eventually got all those stupid ad-ons for my Genesis. 32x and SegaCD. 32x didn't have any RPGs that I know of. SegaCD had loads. Mostly Working Designs stuff. Didn't get most of them until way later off of e-bay though. But I have Vay, Dark Wizard, Dungeon Explorer, Shining Force CD, and Popful Mail <3
Then I moved on to my Saturn. Awesome machine. Some of the best and most overlooked games ever. A pattern that unfortunately relegated over the Dreamcast. For Saturn I had the awesomest game: Dragon Force. Also Shining Force 3 and Shining The Holy Ark. Oh, and Shining Wisdom. (I've played every Shining game released in America >_>) Let's see... Albert Odyssey, Blazing Heroes, and Panzer Dragoon Saga. I think that's it for RPGs. Lots of other great games though.
Then, not to feel left out, I got a N64, which had what? 3 RPGs? I played Quest 64 and owned Zelda OoT. Big freakin' whoop XD
Now PS1... Oh my gosh. Don't even have half the RPGs that interested me. But I'll try to list what I remember of the ones I own and have rented. Top of the list being Xenogears and FF4-9. Legend of Legaia. Grandia. Alundra. Wild Arms. FFT. Parasite Eve. Rhapsody. Jade Coccoon. Lunar: TSSSC. Tales of Destiny. And I rented a crappy game: Beyond the Beyond. Lots of stuff I missed out on though.
My Dreamcast ... It had few RPGs. I didn't get any of them. Unless Shenmue counts.
PS2. Here we go again. 2 Norrath games. A Baldur's Gate. La Pucelle and Disgaea. XenoSaga. FFX. Kingdom Hearts. Er wow... I think that might actually be it o_o;
Now GameCube x_x; Tried a few failed attempts at RPGs on this poor system. Didn't like Zelda TWW. Didn't like Skies of Arcadia :/ Tales of Symphonia couldn't keep me interested. So I didn't bother with whatever else
Now the system with my new favorite RPGs. X-Box has Kotor 1 and 2 and Jade Empire. Win. Also I got X-Men Legends for this system.
PC has Baldur's Gate. BG2. Awesome games. Played both Diablo games on it. And I think that might be the official end of my list. Though I could go into emulation...lotsa weird crap. Especially for SNES. Japanese games that never made it over. I finally got the chance to find out why.
PnP:
Dungeons and Dragons
Big Eyes, Small Mouth
Paranoia
Full Thrust (More of a tactical thing like Warhammer, but I love it so much I just can't not put it in.)
Computerised:
Final Fantasy I through XI, including X-2 (One or two of which were on emulators, though I don't recall which.)
Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legends I, II, and III
Final Fantasy Tactics
Suikoden I through IV
Vandal Hearts I and II
La Pucelle Tactics
Phantom Brave
Radiata Stories
Ogre Battle
Skies of Arcadia (DC Version)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance I and II
Balder's Gate I and II
Neverwinter Nights
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Phantasy Star II, III, and IV (Emulators)
Phantasy Star Online
Xenogears
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht
Wild Arms
Tales of Destiny II
Breath of Fire II, III, and IV
SaGa Frontier II
Unlimited SaGa
Star Ocean I, II, and III (I was on an emulator)
Bahamut Lagoon (emulator)
Valkyrie Profile
.hack// series
Lunar: Silver Star Story "Complete"
Vagrant Story
Front Mission III and IV
World of Warcraft
City of Heroes
ROSE Online
The Legend Of Mir III
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Jade Empire
Endless Online
Pokemon Blue, Red, Yellow, Gold, Silver
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time
The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker
The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Secret Of Mana
Secret Of Evermore
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Kingdom Hearts
Dragon Warrior VII
Earthbound
Parasite Eve
Alundra
Legend Of Dragoon
Legend Of Legaia
Live a Live (Emulator)
Brave Fencer Musashi
Grandia
Grandia II
Diablo I and II
Bard's Tale (the original that is)
Fable
Fallout I and II
Quite a few more for the PC which I can't recall, as I played them a very long time ago. And probably the occasional one for other systems I've missed as well (I'm sure there were a couple more for the DC which I played...) Also, I'm sure there are a few which I can't remember.
You're really going with that as an argument as to why it is an RPG? I'd ask for an elaboration on it, but it isn't necessary.
And for the record, it isn't an RPG. The only reason Nintendo ever decided to market it as one (Ocarina in 1998) was because FF7 was so successful in 1997 and RPGs were the "in" thing. Ocarina is no different from Zelda 1 or 3 except that it is in 3D and that it isn't as good.
I specifically remember a Nintendo power issue in the late 90's where they were comparing and contrasting different "in" and "out" products for the new year. They wanted to market Ocarina as an FF7 killer, which thank god it never became, and the final section of that page was that in 1998 FF7 would be "out" and Ocarina would be "in".
Think about it. Did you ever hear anyone refer to the Zelda series (with the exception of the Adventure of Link) as an RPG prior to the release of Final Fantasy VII?
I'd say Adventure/Puzzle/Action, in that order.
To hell with Battletoads and Double Dragon.
THIS is the ultimate team.
Yay!!! some one Apart from me has played terranigma and 7th Saga
ive played most of the games you guys played...
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Zelda is not an RPG, I've argued and proved my point countless times, arguing that you play the role of Link is dumb, is Sonic an RPG, you play the role of sonic, is Mario an RPG, you play the role of mario. Is megaman an RPG, you play the role of megaman. NO, in fact, Megaman released an RPG called Command Mission, that was an RPG, and Battle Network is mostly an RPG as well. Mario released RPGs as well, Legend of the Seven Stars, the Paper Mario games, and Superstar Saga. These were RPGs, not every other mario and megaman game. Is metroid an RPG, you play the role of samus. Is Halo an RPG, you play the role of Master Chief.
Saying that you play the role of someone does not make a game an RPG, so stop saying that people, if that were true, 90% of games would be RPGs, and pretty much every FPS would also be an RPG
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All the games, Jesus! You guys are nerds. I've only played these: FFI-FFX-2, Koudelka, Legend of Mana, Sword of Mana, Bahamuts Lagoon and a couple more.
Wow, easy there tiger. That statement was to be taken lightly, but I suppose there are some who consider this kinda thing serious business.
What is it, in your mind, that seperates an RPG from the rest? HP/MP/EXP doesn't determine the genre. An RPG is a game with a developed, non-linear world with room for exploration, and unravels a tale as you progress. Basically, there's a story to be told, and playing as the protagonist (Link, in this case) you go at your own pace and make it happen. If the game can be scribed as an actual story, then it's an RPG.
And of course, this is just the backbone, Zelda also has NPCs to converse with, important recurring characters that influence the story just as much as you do, and hey, a health/magic system in lieu of HP/MP. Just in case you're still sticking to your original story here.
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Thanks, I had forgotten about Koudelka.And yeah, I'm very much a nerd. And a dork. And a geek, too. *Pride*
Oh, and I remembered another one! The Granstream Saga!
At any rate, I would class Zelda as an RPG. Action RPGs, such as Zelda and Alundra, aren't the same obviously as 'proper' ones like the FF series, but they still have some significant hallmarks of the RPG genre. For example, sidequests. Upgrading equipment. Collecting pieces of equipment. Growing in power, and gaining new abilities.
To be sure, the lines between genres are becoming blurred. See Deus Ex for example. An FPS of course, but with strong traits of an RPG nonetheless. Because of the story side, and also the potential for choices and open-endedness which RPGs offer, it's very easy and reasonable for those aspects to be incorporated into pretty much every ther genre there is.
No i believe an RPG to be a game where you can develop your character/s how you want to, you control the character and decide how that character will turn out.Wow, easy there tiger. That statement was to be taken lightly, but I suppose there are some who consider this kinda thing serious business.
What is it, in your mind, that seperates an RPG from the rest? HP/MP/EXP doesn't determine the genre. An RPG is a game with a developed, non-linear world with room for exploration, and unravels a tale as you progress. Basically, there's a story to be told, and playing as the protagonist (Link, in this case) you go at your own pace and make it happen. If the game can be scribed as an actual story, then it's an RPG.
And of course, this is just the backbone, Zelda also has NPCs to converse with, important recurring characters that influence the story just as much as you do, and hey, a health/magic system in lieu of HP/MP. Just in case you're still sticking to your original story here.
You don't do that with Link
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So basically it's still stats that make the game. If it was all about character development, then the Tony Hawk Underground and Amped games (to name a couple) would count as RPGs too, would they not?
The story element is what makes an RPG, character development is just something that's been, well, developed over the years.
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