Which Political Group Are You?

[TurkSlayer]

Liberal. I took the test anyway just to be sure, and it seemed the suggest that I was without a doubt liberal.

[Teek]

profit does not mean efficieny. in the wars we needed the coal, trains, and industry dedicated to winning the war not making profit. building the best as fast and cheaply as possible. it was the best way to win the war.

Funding the war was profitable, and you're reavealing that you really don't understand the idea of "profit motive".

Profit does mean efficacy - if companies needed the most materials, then everyone profits. And that is the best way to win a war.

[bipper]

That quiz at ok cupid ranked me as follows:

You are a Social Moderate (56% permissive) and an... Economic Liberal (21% permissive) You are best described as a: Democrat Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

I would Say that I am more of a libritarian to what these results display, and a bit more republican

[ShunNakamura]

Well I took it as well.. just for fun.. and this is what I got.

You are a Social Liberal (71% permissive) and an... Economic Liberal (23% permissive) You are best described as a: Strong Democrat Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

Not sure how well this portrays me.. but meh. All I know is that for the past couple elections I have leaned more democrat then Republican. Though I am big on spouting vote on what they stand for not the party.

[Teek]

You are a Social Liberal (85% permissive) and an... Economic Conservative (78% permissive) You are best described as a: Libertarian Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

[Shadow Nexus]

If something needs to be done, the greedy dollar-chasers would do it in spades because they believe in profit. And on the other hand: how is the government more certified to run industry than the industrials are?

The goverment dosen't literary run the companies. I mean, it's not like the ministers and president decide to run the company themselves. The industrials you say will always run the industries: the difference lies in wether the company is private or goverment owned. One could say company CEOs would not worry so much about the public company if they are not getting any extra benefit. Of course, in theory socialism requires of people who actually believe in it. However, mantaining the means of production of capitalism in socialism is a contradiction: one could say the means of socialism are less effective, but more human. In theory, of course, always in theory.

[FFGuevara]

You are a Social Liberal (86% permissive) and an... Economic Liberal (10% permissive) You are best described as a: Socialist Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

Its a almost accurate description of me.

[War Angel]

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You are a Social Liberal (61% permissive) and an... Economic Moderate (55% permissive) You are best described as a: Centrist Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

That's me, basically. Extreme on any side seems stupid to me. For a society to prosper, it has to be balanced. However, equilibrium happens only after a few extreme occassions...

[Shadow Nexus]

Extreme on any side seems stupid to me.

Extremes don't exist until you decide to draw a line or a chart like the one in the test.

By the way, I'd like to point out that chart is wrong. It places anarchism in total liberalism, including economic...and well, that's not traditional anarchism, that's anarcocapitalism. Or in other words, for those who have read V for Vendetta, the definition of anarchy in this test is chaos, not "the country of do-what-you-want". Also, the concept of "totalitarian" is absurd there, as fascism is totalitarian, and socialism can be totalitarian or liberal. Yeah, socialism dosen't make much sense...how do they define it? Because socialism dosen't need to be socially permissive.

Also, the concept of "Republican" is stupid there. The concept of Republic is not the same thing as Republican party. Neither is democracy limited to the Democrat party.

[Traitorfish]

If something needs to be done, the greedy dollar-chasers would do it in spades because they believe in profit. And on the other hand: how is the government more certified to run industry than the industrials are?

Err... I'm afraid I can't quite grasp your logic. That kind of thinking is what leads to the privatisation, not only of industry and transport, but healthcare and even education. "Why build schools? Some greedy ass-hat will undoubtedly start a private one!" Not a good way to run a country. Besides, anyone who's in it purely for the money can not, ever, under any circumstances, be trusted. That kind of system would lead to huge amounts of corruption. Just look at the oil companies...

Also, the concept of "totalitarian" is absurd there, as fascism is totalitarian, and socialism can be totalitarian or liberal. Yeah, socialism dosen't make much sense...how do they define it? Because socialism dosen't need to be socially permissive.

I agree that totalitarianism is used pretty vaugely there, but I think it means the sort of pure totalitarianism you get. Like 1984. Stalin or Mao, though claiming to be communist would fall here, for example, because there policies basically came down to 'Everyone do exactly what I say, when I say, all the time'.

[Madame Adequate]

You are a Social Liberal (88% permissive) and an... Economic Conservative (100% permissive) You are best described as a: Anarchist Link: The Politics Test on Ok Cupid Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

Probably fairly accurate. Though like Hachi I'm not entirely sure why libertarianism is a necessary precursor to anarchism. Although I suppose I would be more prone to anarchocapitalism if I actually thought it would work.

Some of those questions were very badly phrased though. Some, for example, asked whether you approved of something. Well there's plenty of things I don't approve of, but that doesn't mean I go around judging people or saying my views should be law.

[Teek]

Err... I'm afraid I can't quite grasp your logic. That kind of thinking is what leads to the privatisation, not only of industry and transport, but healthcare and even education. "Why build schools? Some greedy ass-hat will undoubtedly start a private one!" Not a good way to run a country. Besides, anyone who's in it purely for the money can not, ever, under any circumstances, be trusted. That kind of system would lead to huge amounts of corruption. Just look at the oil companies....

First off, I am for privatized healthcare and, yes, even education. And the quote is not my logic at all. And I don't understand your logic that "anyone who wants money can't be trusted". Explain?

[Shadow Nexus]

I agree that totalitarianism is used pretty vaugely there, but I think it means the sort of pure totalitarianism you get. Like 1984. Stalin or Mao, though claiming to be communist would fall here, for example, because there policies basically came down to 'Everyone do exactly what I say, when I say, all the time'.

But Stalin and Mao were Socialists. Socialism is not marxism, socialism embraces marxism and many other theories, mainly economic. Socialism can be compared to capitalism, you can also get multiple ways of goverment under this economical system. Aproximative examples:

Capitalism as economic order, one way of democracy (because there are also several ways of making democracy) as political = Most western countries

Capitalism as economic order, fascism as political = Spain during Franco.

Socialism as economic, democracy as political = Chile with Allende, Spain in the 1930s. Yes, I am aware they also skipped democratic laws, I am talking about theories.

Socialism as economic, totalitarism as political = Most so called "communist" countries, wich are a perfect excuse to badmouth Marx: Soviet Union, China, Korea, Cuba...Cuba being the lest totalitarist, but still far from democracy.

Capitalism as economic order, anarchism as political = What that test defines as "anarchism", which is not. It's anarcocapitalism. Like...Midgar in Final Fantasy VII. Also, calling this "anarchism" is somehow a contradiction, as a-kratos y lack of power, and anarcocapitalism would have people in power.

Socialism as economic, anarchism as political = Basically what Marx called "communism" or "the end of history".

Basically, the test is stupid. Very stupid.


And here is a more serious one:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

I wont do it again, but the result I had was the bottom left corner, a lot to the left, a lot to the bottom.

[Teek]

Capitalism as an economic system, and a republic devoted to the protection of individual rights. You missed that one.

Edit: I took the political test, and I was right in the middle of the lower-right square, which is basically the same results as the other test. Which seems to imply I'm pretty firmly a central libertarian.

[Dr Unne]

According to that test, I'm a liberal-leaning centrist. Who woulda thought.

Discussing politcal ideals is largely discussing make-believe. "There's never been a TRUE communist state!" "There is no current TRUE capitalist state!" (No True Scotsman)

I'll call myself a monarchist. There's never been a TRUE benevloent monarchy. Benevolent monarchy means the monarch is the wisest person in the land and enacts laws which benefit both individuals and society in the best way possible, at the expense of neither. His children inherit all of his wisdom along with all of his politcal power with each new generation. He has absolute power, so all laws are enforced to the fullest extent possible. Also add in the national pride of having a parent-figure as the leader of a country; there are not only practical benefits, but emotional well-being for all involved.

No ecnomic system takes into account the fact that the vast majority of the population will either actively try to abuse the system, or be too stupid to function correctly in the system, or just not feel like participating. The ideal economic system is one where no one works and everyone still gets everything they want.