when in the game did they call it saphire weapon? i remember them just saying its "weapon"
when in the game did they call it saphire weapon? i remember them just saying its "weapon"
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All the weapons just get called 'Weapon' by the characters, including Ultima Weapon and Diamond Weapon, but they each have unique names, too. Sapphire Weapon is the official name of the blue Weapon destroyed at Junon. It's not in the game, but that's what it'd called, according to the game's creators.
Mako does, but Spirit Energy and the Lifestream do not. The writers of FFVII clearly designed the game with the intent that the Lifestream posess qualities that are not wholly quantifiable; there's a reason, after all, that Spirit Energy bears that name. While its application in the physical world might involve certain quantifiable aspects, things like an afterlife are beyond "natural laws."Originally Posted by ?????
Mako, according to FFVII, is "compressed [and] processed Spirit Energy."
Unlike the Spirit Energy it's derived from, Mako can most likely be quantified and understood scientifically (given its obvious application in Shinra technology). Beyond that, though, it's impossible to say anything about Mako that has any real support.Cloud: You're talking about Mako energy, right?
Bugenhagen: Everyday Mako reactors suck up Spirit energy, diminishing it. Spirit
energy gets compressed in the reactors and processed into Mako energy. All
living things are being used up and thrown away. In other words, Mako energy
will only destroy the Planet...
As Big D pointed out, all members of SOLDIER fight with swords. While it's certain that even Shinra's top troops possess nowhere near the incredible abilities of a Cloud, or a Sephiroth, or a Kadaj, it remains that they do use swords. It's possible that, given that SOLDIER members have access to magic, their ranged attack needs are taken care of, and a devastating close range weapon could instead be utilized.
It's also notable that even some Turks use swords; one of the playable Turks in Before Crisis uses a sword as his weapon. The weaponry of the Turks seems to vary between individuals, though; Reno, Rude, and Elena all fight with different weapons, and the Turks of Before Crisis all fight differently. For what it's worth, Turk (Gun), Turk (Shotgun), and Turk (Two Guns) (so named/described in the credits of Last Order) all use a gun or guns as his or her weapon(s) of choice.
A somewhat larger helicopter appears briefly in Advent Children. This isn't necessarily significant, but it's probable that one never is witness to the full scope of Shinra's arsenal. This doesn't invalidate your point; it simply suggests that it's difficult for one to get a complete grip on the technological nature of Gaia when information not germane to actual events goes unrevealed.
Minor Advent Children -and- Dirge of Cerberus SpoilersA new airship, the Sierra (or Shera, if the AC translation is to be consistent with the original translation of the game), appears in Advent Children. The same new airship also appears in the Dirge of Cerberus trailer.
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I'm aware of the new airships in DC/AC, but in FFVII's time the Highwind is apparently unique.
Even then, it's got "natural laws" of its own. Since Spirit Energy is 'the stuff of life', it carries some imprint of the entity that once housed it. Normally, that energy disperses and loses its form once it re-joins the Lifestream; but when the pattern remains fairly cohesive, a consciousness or memories can remain intact - thus explaining things like ghosts, or characters speaking from beyond the grave.While its application in the physical world might involve certain quantifiable aspects, things like an afterlife are beyond "natural laws."
Mako energy is basically the same as the Lifestream; it's the same kind of energy, just in a slightly different form. Reactors extract the energy and use it to generate electricity; it can also be used in piston engines and other devices. But when it's artificially compressed, it becomes Materia; the same process happens in nature, too. Notably, the Mideel doctor diagnoses Cloud with "mako radiation poisoning", even though he spent time in the Lifestream. Same substance, different application. The 'laws' of mako energy don't apply in our world, since (so far as we know) there's no powerful 'spirit energy' coursing through our bodies, or through the planet; but in FFVII, there's a consistent and logical set of 'rules', which mean a scientific reason can be applied to everything from magical powers to ghosts to telepathy, and it's all based on the properties spirit energy.
I'd like to see where it references that the Highwind is Mako-powered, though it isn't too hard to believe that it uses Mako, at least to an extent. It likely has a more conventional power system to serve as a backup, and because they're leaning toward alternate energy sources by the time of AC, the Sierra may just have a very large jet engine or some form of nuclear reactor onboard. Considering its extreme maneuverability and presumable increase in durability over the Highwind, I'd lean toward the latter option.
It seems clear that Shinra has the ability to develop highly advanced weaponry, as is evidenced by such occurrences as the Sister Ray; their level of scientific understanding is sufficient to accommodate a very sophisticated level of technology, but one must remember that Shinra is first and foremost a company. They're not going to spend more money than they believe is required to reach their goals, which explains why they haven't turned the planet into Coruscant. They do have quite a leg up on us in terms of cybernetics. I played the beginning of the game again a few days ago, and I lost count of the assault drones I ran into. Nearly all of them were equipped with directed energy weapons, which although weak compared to the party, are more than sufficient to dispose of the average grunt, and were obviously mass-produced.
I don't know too terribly much about the armament onboard helicopters, unfortunately, but they didn't ever appear to use it if it was there. Presumably, their giant friggin' robots were more destructive.
It's not in the game, but in some official external sources I can't recall right now. There's even a mention of its Mako consumption rate...I'd like to see where it references that the Highwind is Mako-poweredNuclear reactors are hellishly heavy, due to the shielding and cooling systems... probably impractical for something like an airship, which depends on being very light.the Sierra may just have a very large jet engine or some form of nuclear reactor onboard. Considering its extreme maneuverability and presumable increase in durability over the Highwind, I'd lean toward the latter option.
The world of FFVII (the actual planet) is actually a very small one. I found it unrealistic because i imagined it to be as large as our earth, but in fact it is really probably a small planet.
We aren't talking about the planet itself, but rather its technology. Off-topic for a second, I personally am led to believe that FFVII's world, Gaia, is either a far-future Earth or a parallel world with a divergent history. That line of thought isn't accepted en masse, but be that as it may, Gaia can't be a very small planet; otherwise, it won't have enough gravity to hold an atmosphere. Not only that, the world map is clearly not rendered to scale. I've said before not to trust game mechanics in analysis; this is another example. A Chocobo on the world map is roughly the size of Junon. A chocobo that large would not have legs with a sufficient cross-sectional area to support its mass, unless they were made of heavy structural metal, in which case the chocobo wouldn't be able to move at all.
If they do use a nuclear reactor on the Highwind or Sierra, it could not be a fission reactor; it would have to utilize efficient fusion, at the least. The actual technology and understanding to do that is actually fairly close; we may have the first thermonuclear fusion reactor within ten or twenty years. But incorporating it onto ships, especially ships of that size, is still many years away; this doesn't even take into account the fact that the Highwind must necessarily possess anti-gravity technology, or it wouldn't be able to get off the ground. We do see antigrav units in use on some of Shinra's robot units, like the Motor Ball. I read that Boeing is conducting experiments with antigrav, but who knows how that'll turn out.
If you are talking about the helicopter that Rufus' Father got into before the fight with Air-buster then you are correct in saying this, but if you are talking about the helicopters than take off from Junon in the FMV after taking the Huge Materia, then I'm not sure that 'nothing special' would qualify as a description of these.Their helicopters are small and certainly nothing special;
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