lol i agree with ff freak, that is the relationship, and palmer goes there to eats them lol, anyway, tnx for reminding me phoenix, i forgot about that one, so is the 4th line of riddle kalm? i thought that but i thought someone else said it, so i diddnt lol, mmmm and isnt the tango of tears, a losing race theme, so has it got something to do with losing, and i jsut thought of this randomly, is huge materia in this somewhere? jsut i guess, i just remembered it so i thought id mention it hehe