Cloud Versus Sephiroth (CLOUD IS WEAK!!!)

[RiTaPuffy]

Agreed. With the amount of things that had happened in Clouds life combined with the massive amount of "Spirit Energy" he had, it combined into one hell of a "Limit Break-Omnislash", something that would defeat Sephiroth quite easily.

Cloud 2
Septhiroth 0

For the last time its not omnislash, nothing like it lol

[Russielloyd]

Yes it is.

[Holy_Aeris]

CLOOOOOOOOUDiness rules everytime, he just flashes smirk and its like OMG

Yea it was Omnislash! It was a different style, version...something , i cant remember!

But yea Cloud has gotten stronger over the past 2 years, and Sephiroth even mentioned that. So in a way Cloud and Sephiroth are equally strong, its just Sephy got a little too cocky.

[=Angelus=]

Cloud 2
Septhiroth 0

[Croyles]

For the last time its not omnislash, nothing like it lol

Its called Omnislash Version 5, thats what the people at SquareEnix said, if you don't believe me, look up this FAQ by Squall_Of_Seed:
http://faqs.ign.com/articles/657/657331p1.html
scroll down to the question:
"*Q: What is the name of the Limit Break that Cloud used to finish off
Sephiroth?"

Better yet, here is the whole thing copied and pasted (I hope Squall_Of_Seed doesnt mind:

"*Q: What is the name of the Limit Break that Cloud used to finish off
Sephiroth?
*A: "Choukyuu Bushin Hakazan Version 5" is its name. One of the more accurate
translations of the term is "Super Ultimate War God Champion Slash." "Choukyuu
Bushin Hakazan" was the name used for Cloud's original ultimate Limit Break,
and this was localized as "Omnislash" in English. Therefore, one can call this
new Limit Break "Omnislash Version 5."

The suffix "Version 5" was added, by the way, because the form of the attack
seen in the film was the fifth version of the attack that they developed to
use in that scene."

Anyway, back to the point of the topic, I agree with Bushmaori and Russelloyd.

[Lynx]

i think sephiroth was stronger but not much stronger. also remeber cloud proably was a little worn out from his fight with kadaj. but i think the only reason cloud won was cause spehiroth wasnt smart enough to kill him when he had the chance. so then cloud quite angry used his final attack. i notice everyones calling it omnislash even though it wasnt exactly omnislash.

also the score is
cloud 3
sephiroth 0

lets not forget cloud defeating sephiroth at nihbleim make reactor at the crater and now advent children.

also just cause sephiroth is stronger doesnt mean he has as much skill as cloud. and with them skill seems to win over power.

[Croyles]

i notice everyones calling it omnislash even though it wasnt exactly omnislash.

Refer to my post.
Your right in probably thinking it looked a bit different, but it IS called Omnislash Version 5.

[Shoden]

Cloud seemed weak throughout AC, his mind was full of uneasy thoughts and his lack of self forgiveness affected his fighting and unity with his mind, It was after Sephiroth Stabbed him he realized what was happening and he got his strength back.

[Zanius]

Cloud seemed weak throughout AC, his mind was full of uneasy thoughts and his lack of self forgiveness affected his fighting and unity with his mind, It was after Sephiroth Stabbed him he realized what was happening and he got his strength back.

Yes, most of those uneasy thoughts was the guilty of not be able to save his friend Zack and Aeris. And ironically, thanks to Sephiroth he realizes that he has reasons to fight. So, he found his reason to fight, and then he recovered his true strength and defeated Sephiroth.

[Markus. D]

Take note cloud was lvl 100 by the time you finish the original ffvii game.

thats why he one hits atma looking weapons.

edit: is knights of the round where he summons the knights to battle.... or is that omnislash or something -_-"

[Russielloyd]

lets not forget cloud defeating sephiroth at nihbleim

Well that wasnt really a fight, so you cant really count that.

is knights of the round where he summons the knights to battle.... or is that omnislash or something -_-"

It was Omnislash V5 as its been said a couple of times above. I thought the Limit break was great, it would be a bit stupid to put all 17-18 hits of it in, keeping it sensible for was the best way.

EDIT: (off topic) For some reason, when i get to this forum topic through the correct way, it only shows me upto Holy_Aeris post, I had to click on someones profile who has posed after that and look at their post list to see what had been said after Hol_Aeris post, whats up with that?

[Lynx]

come on hoiw is cloud and sephiroth at nihbleim not a fight come cloud stabs him sephiroth stabs him back. besides if you seen ff7 last order they did fight somewhat.

[TurkSlayer]

Its hard to say. Sephiroth has an immense power, but he is a broken and twisted man, and does know nearly as much as he thinks he does. Cloud, on the other hand, is a fairly powerful man with a few genetic enhancements do to the Jenova cells, but he is incapable of forgiving himself for the people he let die, Aerith in particular. Of course, that need for forgiveness also fuels his need for revenge, thus giving him a stronger need to kill Sephiroth. Sephiroth has nothing to fuel him except power and his alien "mother". I'd say Cloud.

[Russielloyd]

Cloud snuck up on Sephiroth and stabbed him, then Cloud "goes" to fight him, Sephy parrys his sword away and stabs him, Cloud must get a adrenaline rush then and throws him. Its totally different to what happens at the end of FF7 and AC. I wouldnt classify it as a fight. A fight or a battle to happen, two or more people must be in combat with each other, it was hardly that was it?

[ljkkjlcm9]

All right people. I have to make arguments to a number of things. One person said he was fighting for revenge because he couldn't forgive himself for Aerith. WRONG. At that point he had already gotten the forgiveness from her. Sephiroth even said to him "You've gotten stronger" and cloud was like "I won't tell the reason to the likes of you." At that point he was already forgiven and knew he was fighting for everyone and everything.

Now as for who is stronger. I'd say they're equal. YES equal in strength. Neither overpowers the other at any point. Meaning they have equal strength. Cloud won through tactics that worked, none of what Sephiroth did worked, blah blah he could have killed Cloud, I honestly don't think he could have at that point. In fact at that point it seemed cloud was stronger because he was able to pull the sword out of him even as sephiroth was holding in it him. Plus, Sephiroth still isn't dead and will most likely return in DoC, cause like he said, he'll never be a memory. Except maybe 498 years later when only Nanaki and his kids are alive.... his kids which we still don't know how he got them....

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