Cloud Versus Sephiroth (CLOUD IS WEAK!!!)

[Christmas]

The one that had the last laugh is what matters.

as far as people thinking of sephiroth as a god thats false. he wanted to be like a god. his idea was to make meteor hit the earth so the lifestream would rush to a certain spot and sephiroth would go there and somehow become more powerful. i forget how if there was even an axplanation of how.

Sephiroth: It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to
heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the
injury. ...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very
life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha ha ha. And at
the center of that injury, will be me. All that boundless energy will be mine.
By merging with all the energy of the Planet, I will become a new life form, a
new existence. Melding with the Planet... I will cease to exist as I am now...
Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every soul.

[Zeromus_X]

well...all of this is alot of overthinking things..hm...

so for me its this question: mama's boy or seizure dude? (just kidding )

sephiroth is insane, and i like insane people. cloud just has low self esteem.(well, he did in the game anyway, to me.)

so i guess ill pick sephy.

(oh yeah, he has masamune. definitely seph.)

[Fatihin_Malaysia_Girl]

Go Cloud! Go Cloud! Go Cloud!

He the best.Sephiroth are his enimy but Cloud can defeat him.

Cloud vs Sephiroth

And Cloud win!

ps:Cloud Not Weak

[Tamaki sagaku]

ok sephiroth is a science experiment. hoje and lucrecia were gonna have a kid when hojo injeceted the soon to be sephiroth with jenova cells. since sephiroth was in the womb still developing instead of turinging them into some crazy messed up clone like the guys you meet in ff7 in nibelheim (those were the survivors of the incident i think it was 5 years ago i might be mistaken but hojo experimented on them with jenova cells too) it fused with him cause he was still developing and the jenova cells bacame part of the development.

he then used the jenova cells and mako on cloud and zack. makeing cloud catatonic. and his semi conches self made him think all the storys he heard from zack were him. then zack was killed and they left cloud for dead cause he wasnt moveing or doing much. because cloud was tested on with the jenova cells and mako he became as powerful as a soldier actually even more powerful then the average soldier.

the only way for sephiroth to come back is with reunion which in ffac case was either kadaj yahzoo or loz had to i guess you could say merge with jenova. kadaj yahzoo and loz were "remnants of sephiroth" they were basically the spirit of sephiroth takeing a human solid body form with the goal to have a reunion with jenova. and that reunion would bring back a kind of sephiroth. because of jenovas shapshifting abilitys it could take the form of sephiroth and with sephiroths spirit and jenova cells it would have the power of sephiroth too.

as far as people thinking of sephiroth as a god thats false. he wanted to be like a god. his idea was to make meteor hit the earth so the lifestream would rush to a certain spot and sephiroth would go there and somehow become more powerful. i forget how if there was even an axplanation of how. an when the lifestream came from all over some of jenova was carried in. and thats how it infected so many people.

ok i belive i got sidetracked some but that should explain some to everyone who reads it. by the way i dont want to take all the credit i learned this from a website but unfortunatly i dont remeber the website address sorry but how hard could it be to find.

anyways the score still stands 3 to 0 with cloud haveing 3.

besides the whole thing when they have there swords slammed together and cloud slams him through the wall and to outside. sephiroth was jsut useing the same amount of power cloud was to toy with him and cloud showed him theres a lot more power he has hideing but is obviously haveing trouble releaseing.

the reason cloud falls and stumbles during the fight was because he was exhausted. sephiroth is like superhuman so for all we know he could never get tired where as cloud does get tired. also besides he had just had a good fight with kadaj and 5 minutes before that getting blasted at in the church and 5 minutes before that fighitng loz and yahzoo on the motorcycles and 5 minutes before that fighting bahaumut. i mean come on cut cloud some slack who wouldnt be tired after all that? by the way i exagerate some by saying 5 minutes before. but still point still stands he wasnt weak just human and because of that he gets tired after jumping 100s of feet in the air and fighting everyone and everything. also sephirtoh seemed stronger cause he was way more confident then cloud. he belives hes the strongest. where its cloud who really is the strongest cloud just doesnt know it until sephiroth reminds him of what cloud is fighting for. then BAM! in comes clouds true strength and skill. saying cloud is weaker is dumb cause in fighting power in only some of the percentage of fighting a lot more is skill. and i doubt when you guys say who is stronger your talking about who can bench the most weight.

so there cloud wins hes stronger.

u got that all rights. cloud hidden his true power, sephiroth didnt know how he unleashes his true power than his. he was stock.(i guess) but i agreed everything what lynx said. 10 points for it. dont tell me he lies.

[Loz]

Cloud is a cheater
Sorry, clouds fans, but his power looks unreal in my opinion. he wins because he's good character
Happy ends sux!

[SoulTaker*]

I'd say Cloud is 4 for 4 against Sephiroth isnt he? I mean he beat him in Clouds hometown, then he beat him(with the help of his friends) then he beat him again when he was tryin to take control of Clouds body, now he beats him in Advent Children, I'd say Cloud owns Sephiroth. Cloud is a bio-engineered super human fighting machine, and Sephiroth is a little boy who misses his mommy to much, get over it fan-boys and Cloud beats is rear hyde. Plus Cloud had been fighting all day, he fought 3 Sephiroth clones and bahamut, and still had time out of his busy schedule to kick Sephiroths teeth in.

[?????]

In the end, what matters is who won. Cloud didn't die like a bitch, therefore he wins. Also, if Cloud was truly dead, they couldn't revive him. He's apparently strong enough to survive a direct gunshot; if he can throw Sephiroth into the Lifestream while being impaled, that isn't much of a stretch. Also, keep in mind that Phoenix Downs or conventional medical technology will only work if the patient isn't dead; hence, why Aeris couldn't be revived. She wasn't just KOed, she was out-and-out killed.

Sephiroth is insanely strong, but he's deluded, and he made mistakes.

[[:..x.ffd.lil.one.x..:]]

In the end, what matters is who won. Cloud didn't die like a bitch, therefore he wins. Also, if Cloud was truly dead, they couldn't revive him. He's apparently strong enough to survive a direct gunshot; if he can throw Sephiroth into the Lifestream while being impaled, that isn't much of a stretch. Also, keep in mind that Phoenix Downs or conventional medical technology will only work if the patient isn't dead; hence, why Aeris couldn't be revived. She wasn't just KOed, she was out-and-out killed.

Sephiroth is insanely strong, but he's deluded, and he made mistakes.

So so so True!!! !! Cloud IS stronger. End of. First of all, if Sephiroth was stronger then wouldn't he have won? In most movies when they have fights it's usually the good guy looks like he's about to lose then becomes stronger because of emotions, feelings because of what the bad guy says while he thinks that he's got the battle won. Even though Cloud looked as though he was weak and had obviously lost his battle, it was obvious he thought about everything that was important to him. CLOUDZ IS THE BEST!!

[Neco Arc]

CLOUDZ IS THE BEST!!

You're so wrong... Its definitely Mukki and Palmer...

[Khaotic]

I think you are all just fan boys , sephiroth would win, hands down. He didn't because cloud is the good guy, and good guys always win, same goes for the game, and everything else you have seen. If sephiroth can make a friggin meteor, I'm sure he can kill cloud.

[Cloud Valentine]

It's partially hipocritical to call the Cloud supporters fanboys then say Sephiroth could kill Cloud. If he could he would've, but he didn't in any of his 3 attempts. Plus, just because Cloud is the good guy doesn't mean he isn't stronger. He is stronger because he is the good guy. And anyway, in stories it's whoever has the strongest will who wins. Sephiroth had no reason to fight, no one to protect, but Cloud had to win to protect those he cares about.

[Khaotic]

You keep on thinking that, judging from the playstation game itself, the story line, sephiroth was always superior but never killed cloud for his own reasons. What are you talking about, whoever is strongest wins? Cloud is the "hero" of course he's going to win, you dont see sin, or yu yeven rather destroying spira, or anything else in other final fantasys, the good guys always win, period. Sephiroth doesn't need reasons, he's insane, he kills for fun, and besides, he wants to kill cloud, thats more than a reason.


Say sephiroth would have won, how would the story end? give me an answer, which you problably can't because THOUSANDS would complain that aeris or zack or cloud or tifa or whoever didn't make it in the ending because the hero, CLOUD, died.

[Dreddz]

I think if Cloud didnt have those cheat Limit breaks sephiroth would of total pwned him.
I think the message is that even though Sephiroth is one hard cookie, deep down, Cloud is the stronger of the two...

[?????]

I think you are all just fan boys , sephiroth would win, hands down. He didn't because cloud is the good guy, and good guys always win, same goes for the game, and everything else you have seen. If sephiroth can make a friggin meteor, I'm sure he can kill cloud.

And here we have not only a hypocritical fanboy, but someone who didn't pay attention to the storyline. No one "made" the Meteor; the Black Materia sought it out and applied a crapton of kinetic energy to direct it toward the Earth. Also, good guys didn't always win in the game. The numerous tales of Shinra's imperialist exploits can testify to that. In addition, AVALANCHE failed to stop the atrocity in Sector 7 or save Aeris.

[Khaotic]

Didn't pay attention to the story line? Excuse me, I've beaten the game about 10 times, and I've owned it since the day it came out. Your comment has nothing to do with the ending of the game, thats midgame, and bad things always happen, or else there wouldn't be a storyline, dur. I'm also not a fan boy, sephiroth can go to hell for all I care, you dont see my name being OMFGSEPHI777 or SEPHIISHAWT^_^ or even him in my signature, do you? Just because I'm stating my opinion, which if you guys would take your heads out of your asses and actually think for once, the obvious is sephiroth has always been superior to cloud. End of discussion, I'm not going to sit here arguing about RPG, aka PIXEL characters being superior to others.