Cloud Versus Sephiroth (CLOUD IS WEAK!!!)

[FaTaLfURy]

I do think that Sephiroth's stronger than Cloud, but I also think that his strength meant nothing compared to Cloud's determination, motivation and yes, desperation. Yup, he could've killed Cloud specifically in that scene where he stabbed cloud with his sword. Cloud was already very tired at that point and had not much fight in him but when Sephiroth held back and(maybe)without thinking allowed Cloud to recover, Cloud regained his edge. Oh and as for people saying that Sephiroth just stood there so Cloud could finish him off, I think that's not it. Remember how he died at the game? It was from Cloud's omnislash right? And maybe, just maybe, seeing it again and remembering how Cloud ended his life was enough to neutralize him and allowed Cloud to make his kick-ass version 5 of his limitbreak. ^_^ Oh, and I also agree with wath Bushmaori said. Ja ne! ^_^

[DarkLadyNyara]

sephiroth was merely playing with cloud during the fight, thus not showing his true strength (which we were never shown). He lost because he underestimated Cloud and didnt prepare himself for his Omnislash

Yeah, that about covers it.

[MikeL Valentine]

In the Sephy vs Cloud fight, who did you think was the stronger?
I think Sephiroth was the stronger of the two
In the fight, Sephiroth was mostly on the offensive, repeatedly attacking Cloud, and wearing Cloud's stamina down very successfully. He managed to beat Cloud to his knees (and his rear) without using anything that looked like a limit break, but Cloud only managed to defeat Sephiroth WITH a limit break.. yet again..
Sephiroth could have killed Cloud extremely easily at the end
So, wat do you think?

Sephiroth is the best ever character I have seen in a game/movie(style)
And yes he is far better than Cloud(Cloud has style too but not like Sephiroth

[Halenite]

Sephy cant exist without JENOVA cells within people's bodies to start a reunion to bring about another reunion.

This is the reason Kadaj was kinda thrashing when the water in the church exploded. He knows that water eliminates the Geostigma (as proven in the ending and Cloud's healing)

Sephiroth is stronger than Cloud. In FFVII, he admits it. When Sephiroth says "Tell me what you cherish most. Allow me the pleasure of taking it away" it made Cloud realize what he's fighting for.

Also, I can't remember when it was said in the movie, but Aeris says "I never blamed you, not once." That also probably gave Cloud some strength back.

Also on the Sierra during Cloud vs. Kadaj Tifa says "Two years ago...think about the strength we all had when we fought that last battle. It's only been a couple of years, but already that feeling's gone. But Cloud...I think he's found it again"


While yes, Sephiroth is stronger, all those feelings made Cloud able to come on top.

[Russielloyd]

This is the reason Kadaj was kinda thrashing when the water in the church exploded. He knows that water eliminates the Geostigma (as proven in the ending and Cloud's healing)

The water is actually ridden the body of JENOVA cells which causes Geostigma. If you rid the body the JENOVA cells, Geostigma goes with it.

Kadaj is fully composed of JENOVA cells and when the water touches him, he's knows it destoys JENOVA cells. So he got out of there pretty quick.

Also, I can't remember when it was said in the movie, but Aeris says "I never blamed you, not once."
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Tifa says that. It was a voice message on Cloud's mobile and you heard it as the phone was sinking to the bottom of the water.

[Halenite]

I just watched that clip again and that is definately Aeris's voice, not Tifa's

[Russielloyd]

Hmmm, maybe you're right. I'm deffinately right about the first bit though.

[Halenite]

yeah, I worded that wrong. That is what I meant, but it isn't what came out >_<

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

The answer to this is very simple.

Sephiroth is better, but if Cloud died they would lose profit money for killing off the main character.


And come on, if they didn't care if cloud would have died or not, then sephy would have won. Why else would it take the whole group to kill him two years ago, and only cloud now?

[crescent_wish]

CLOUD SHALL RULE FOREVER!

[Christmas]

Yes, and look at how many members get banned for this debate of DEATH!

[Zanius]

Seriously... I can't believe that this thread is still active... looks like Cloud is the winner.

[Leeza]

Zanius, this thread was NOT active and when you see dead threads revived, in the future, please use the warn button.

crescent_wish, do not revive dead threads.