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    Yes, yes.

    Mo's right when he says many characters have been nerfed. I personally don't think Kilik has been nerfed that badly, but that may be because I was never a hardcore Kilik player. I was, however, a hardcore Talim player in SCII, and I can definitely say that she's been nerfed all to hell. I have never seen a character change so drastically between two games... she lost almost everything that made her playworthy, and gained pretty much nothing in exchange. Now she has a lot of Air Leap and Gale options, which is alright, but they hardly even make up for all her lost back-turn and Wind Charmer techniques. She plays much less dodgy than she used to, which is what made her so awesome in SCII. Her speed has been greatly reduced as well, which is a total bummer. However, after a while of getting used to this new Talim, I'm starting to pick her up slowly. She'll never be as good as SCII Talim, but she's still playable in a competitive sense.

    I've been to one tournament so far, and I didn't do TOO badly, considering the likes of Aris, B:L, and TieTYT were there (some of the best SC players of the west coast)... but then again, I didn't even get to play them... heehee. At least I didn't get last place, right?

    From what I've heard Sophitia and Cassandra lead the pack when it comes to the top tier characters - with Cassandra just edging out Sophie. I haven't gotten the chance to play either character in the hands of a real player yet, so I can't say what that's like. But Cassie was already pretty damn good in SCII.

    My overall impression is that once you get passed all the radical changes that were made to the characters, the game starts to shine a bit more. The underlying engine is still good, and I kinda like the new Tales of Souls mode (though getting to Night Terror is a pain in the ass! I don't think I'll be able to 100% this game because that includes getting to Night Terror with every character!). Chronicles of the Sword is alright... though the load times are incredibly annoying. Create-a-Fighter is fun to mess around with, but is kinda limited... they should have implemented sliders like The Sims 2 instead of snap-ons. But as it is, you can make some fun characters to mess around with. Why you can't import your characters to and from Chronicles of the Sword is beyond me... Lack of progressive scan is also baffling considering SCII supported it. It's a lot more fun in single player than any other fighting game, which is great... but let's face it... fighting games are made to be played with other people. And that's why it's confusing why this game will never make it to the arcade. I probably spent hundreds of dollars in quarters on SCII in the arcades. Also, arcade releases are a great way to test out the game and fine tune it before console release. I believe SCII went through 3 or 4 revisions in the arcades before hitting home (with even more changes).

    Mo: Have you been to www.soulcalibur.com? They have a forum where you can talk with people in your area to set up meetings to play. They also have tournament announcements and the like. You should go there and see if there are any other players in your area that you can meet up with. And don't worry... Cassie's 236B is still there. You'll have to check on the properites yourself since I never really played with Cassie... but from what have played, the move is there and it's still good. Haven't checked if you can Soul Charge 236B into another 236B, but I think you can... Be happy! Cassie is top tier! At least you weren't a Talim player...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatChao
    but they hardly even make up for all her lost back-turn and Wind Charmer techniques.
    That's a real shame. If you remember me ranting about this previously, my area was a breeding place for annoying Talim players and I had grown to not like Talim so much. But towards the demise of SCII in the arcades, I actually started playing some Talim, not because I liked her, but just so I could understand where her mix-ups could go and reinforce my game whenever playing against her. But in the recent weeks, just playing against friends, I've been developing Talim and even...*gasp* enjoy using her. I played against an AI Talim in the demo of SC3 I have and, yeah, I thought I could pick out the speed difference, but the loss of the Wind Charmers wasn't particularly evident until I read this. She also has an uglier character design this time round, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by BatChao
    From what I've heard Sophitia and Cassandra lead the pack when it comes to the top tier characters - with Cassandra just edging out Sophie. I haven't gotten the chance to play either character in the hands of a real player yet, so I can't say what that's like. But Cassie was already pretty damn good in SCII.
    Sophitia and Cassandra, believe it or not, are vastly different characters. Although I enjoy dabbling in some Sophitia every now and again, I really can't use her that well. I don't know what to think about Cassie being top tier. Half the reason why I chose to use Cassie in the first place was because she was underused and underrated in my area. I wanted to step away from the standard fare Nightmare, Kilik and Talim users but I guess in SC3, people will be jumping on the Cassie bandwagon instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by BatChao
    I believe SCII went through 3 or 4 revisions in the arcades before hitting home (with even more changes).
    I hear Nightmare's 66B was brought down in tracking ability about 3 times in consecutive arcade revisions. And yet, it still ownz.

    SC3 still doesn't come out till next week down here but since I have no more exams, I guess I have nothing better to do than try and get myself back into top form. (Although even in top form, I was never any match against the more well-known players, yoshiwutsu, oinking etc.)

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    OMG, me and my bro's favourite mode Team battle has gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper
    Talim still rocks.
    Glad to hear it. She's my favourite by far on SC2...I haven't played 3 yet but it sounds good. Might give it a go. I'm still more of a Tekken girl myself, though...:rolleyes2
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    Tekken > Soul Caliber

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    Good thing it isn't better than Soul Calibur then.

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    I'm going to try to get this as a Christmas present, as I certainly don't have the money for it now. I'm very excited about the character creation, that looks great.

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    None of you are Soul Calibur fans. Well, you're not as crazy about it as me. Just click my first scentence.

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    Wait a tick, doesnt Li Long get killed by some guy with a blow pipe and darts?
    Or doesnt he get killed ny his own Weapon?
    I would love to be happy, but unfortunately I'm too busy being awesome and kicking your ass at everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by roto13
    None of you are Soul Calibur fans. Well, you're not as crazy about it as me. Just click my first scentence.
    Woah. You're pretty meticulous in your research and there's no doubt that you really have a lot of patience and love for the game. Do you do any character FAQs?

    I just bought Soul Calibur 3 (just came out here) and it's pretty awesome. I like the way Cassandra turned out. I still have to change my play style to be a little more punisher and a little less pitbull, I think, but I don't think that'll be a problem (it'll probably give my fingers a much needed break xD). I don't like either Nightmare or Siegfried which sucks because SC2 Nightmare was one of my favs because of his stance rotation. Talim seems too different to even bother re-learning. The game's so huge, I haven't even gotton around to some of my other favourites: Kilik, Ivy, Sophitia.

    And maybe it's because I'm using my old PS1 controller (but I don't think it makes a difference) but I can't move while I Soul Charge now? I cannot begin to describe my annoyance towards this.

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    Uh..... The thought, up until now, was that Li Long was killed by Cervantes.

    I don't like either Nightmare or Siegfried which sucks because SC2 Nightmare was one of my favs because of his stance rotation.
    Well, Siegfried has pretty much all of SC2 Nightmare's moves. And you might be a bit dissappointed by Ivy. Her poor stances.......

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    I am addicted to this game, I love it. I'm trying to unlock Amy at the moment but she's damn hard considering I'm not all that great with any of the characters you can fight her with, my best bet is Yun-Seong. I beat her once only to be an idiot and soft reset the game to see if I'd unlocked Beloved (yes, I kicked myself for that one).

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    GAH!

    NEVER soft reset! And for the love of god, turn off autosave! And save at the options menu every time you finish playing COTS mode. And always finish the chronicle you're on. Please PLEASE backup your file. Why do all these things? This game has an unforgivable problem with save corruption!

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    thanks for that roto, i managed to do so much in my first week of playing only to have it corrupt, im so ashamed i cant even pick up my game controller

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    Quote Originally Posted by roto13
    Uh..... The thought, up until now, was that Li Long was killed by Cervantes.
    Sorry to pick holes but it's a habit, I remember seeing a movie scene after beating edge master mode with Li Long and in it he is swinging his nunchuka around and then he just dies
    I would love to be happy, but unfortunately I'm too busy being awesome and kicking your ass at everything

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