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[Leeza]

I was under the impression that he invited other people to discuss their STDs because he thought if he was just asking a question or talking about himself the thread would be closed. I took the thread to be of the "I think I have an STD, what should I do?" variety.

No where did I see him ask for help and if he did I would have closed it because we are not doctors and if he really has a problem he should see one instead of getting advice from members of an FF board.

To me, the last sentence in the post was an invitation for members to post about their STDs just to see who had what and is what prompted me to close it in the first place. It was not an invitation to discuss STDs for the sake of getting educated about their causes and prevention. Discussing sex and sexual related matters is fine. Getting into details of your own, just for the sake of it, is not in my opinion.

I agree with Yams.

[Hawkeye]

I really dont see the problem. Something changes and somebody else doesnt like it. Whats new?

[Dr Unne]

I realized today that EoFF is the only MB I frequent that would be too vulgar for me to browse at work, hence my inability to respond until now.

[q=Big D]I reckon it should be fine for people to discuss 'mature' topics, such as sexual matters, provided it's done in a suitably sensible manner. Cid has said he doesn't particularly mind sex discussions, and EoEO is the ideal place for a serious thread on those issues.[/q]
That pretty much says everything that needed to be said, in my opinion.

1) It's been given the OK by the big guy.
2) We only allow it if it's being discussed in a mature manner.
EDIT: 3) Murd also hit a strong point with the 'use the warn button' bit.

Pretty sure I INVENTED the "Sean can turn this into a porn site if he wanted" line. I know that Sean certainly has the right to make EoFF however he likes, so I'm not sure why people keep saying that. You have no need to justify why things are the way they are.

I specified that I don't expect things to change due to my complaints. Just wanted to let you know that there are users (apparently not just myself) that don't like how things are here.

[Shlup]

No where did I see him ask for help and if he did I would have closed it because we are not doctors and if he really has a problem he should see one instead of getting advice from members of an FF board.

That could be said about any thread in EoEO.

Just wanted to let you know that there are users (apparently not just myself) that don't like how things are here.

That's not news.

[Big D]

A simple solution would be to check carefully before opening a thread - if the title suggests 'non work-safe' content, then don't open. Works for me.
I'd agree that staff need to be vigilant and merciless in closing non-serious threads on mature topics - 'good taste and common decency', and all that. Things have taken a turn for the worse over the last few years, with a general decline in the general quality of threads and posts... it'd be nice to return to that former level of class, but not at the expense of sacrificing legitimate discussion of serious issues such as STDs. Basically, I think it'd be good to clean the place up somewhat, but without stifling worthwhile debate.

[Loony BoB]

Big D, you said it so well. See my latest thread in the Staff Forum for where the ideal place would be to start such things.

[Shlup]

Best form of quality control is quantity control. Ban all newbies!

[Dr Unne]

A simple solution would be to check carefully before opening a thread - if the title suggests 'non work-safe' content, then don't open. Works for me.
I'd agree that staff need to be vigilant and merciless in closing non-serious threads on mature topics - 'good taste and common decency', and all that. Things have taken a turn for the worse over the last few years, with a general decline in the general quality of threads and posts... it'd be nice to return to that former level of class, but not at the expense of sacrificing legitimate discussion of serious issues such as STDs. Basically, I think it'd be good to clean the place up somewhat, but without stifling worthwhile debate.

I hesitated to use the words "common decency", but they are apt. "Class" is also apt. Yours is the response I'd hoped for. Thank you.

[XxSephirothxX]

Things have taken a turn for the worse over the last few years, with a general decline in the general quality of threads and posts... it'd be nice to return to that former level of class, but not at the expense of sacrificing legitimate discussion of serious issues such as STDs. Basically, I think it'd be good to clean the place up somewhat, but without stifling worthwhile debate.

I wasn't here a few years ago, so I can't really compare things the way they are now to the way they were a few years ago. But if there has indeed been a general decline in the number of quality posts and topics, what's the best way (if there's even a good way at all) to fix the problem? You can't just ban all stupid people, since no one would agree on who's stupid, and many mods spam or post informally just as much as regular members. I don't go in EoEo that often, and I haven't noticed a real problem there, but I wouldn't argue that the quality of EoFF as a whole could be improved.

[Loony BoB]

We can start by banning the usage of stupid images such as the 'o rly' owl. It's a start.

[Raistlin]

We can start by banning the usage of stupid images such as the 'o rly' owl. It's a start.

YES!!!

[escobert]

I really haven't noticed a decline but, then again I try not to touch a serious topic with a 100 foot stick. I'm sure I've helped to the best of my ability to bring this place down . It's so wonderful.

[Big D]

It should be noted that things weren't always 'better' in the old days... joking about cannibalism isn't exactly 'good taste, high art' but Del Murder's "Pass the Bleys, please" is, arguably, one of the greatest threads in the Archive.

Improving EoFF should be about promoting positive, intellectually-engaging discussions - not simply banning one thing after another.

[eestlinc]

yea man, how are those iced coffee hot dogs?!

[Del Murder]

I have mine served with a side of kishi and a nice chilled rubah.