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[Dr Unne]

There was a time when we didn't have a lot of threads discussing sexual techniques in graphic detail and the warts that grow on people's genitals and what sort of porn people prefer. I think those were better times. There was also a time when EoEO was a good place to ask for advice and opinions, believe it or not. This place once helped me through some bad times. I don't think anyone in their right mind would seriously expect to get good advice from EoEO at this point, unless "lolz threesoem" is your idea of good advice.

This place has never been what I'd call "mature", but that's OK; it was good-natured immaturity, at least. I don't remember there being this level of "let's wallow in our own crapulence" sort of immaturity on such a large scale. There are some people who enjoy discussing anything in public, including the intimate details of their bodily functions and sex lives etc. There are some people who are extremely private. There's a middle ground, and you're nowhere near it.

This is feedback in the sense that I'm telling you what I think, not in the sense that I expect anything to change.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I actually find myself in agreement with yourself, some of the threads I've seen of late I would probably close personally, but I am not because most other moderators don't seem to see the problem with them.

[crono_logical]

I agree, but Cid has said otherwise as far as I remember, so yeah

[Shlup]

Seems like the advice people get when they ask for it is sound. When isn't it? When newbies post "lolz" and then get a two week ban? Can't really stop that, except to give them an EoEO ban, which they get, so there you go.

As for the level of conversation, if you don't want to hear about genital warts then you probably shouldn't click a thread entitled "Eyes on STDs." EoEO is for serious discussion, and I think members should feel comfortable bringing up something they want to discuss seriously. Being shot down just because this serious matter involves your penis or that serious matter is something some people may not feel comfortable with is counter-productive to the whole point of having a members-only forum for serious discussion.

[Psychotic]

As for the level of conversation, if you don't want to hear about genital warts then you probably shouldn't click a thread entitled "Eyes on STDs."

So, upon reading the first post (before anyone else had posted because I am supa-fast) I thought to myself I wonder who the first person to post "If you don't like hearing about things like this, then don't read threads about them!" will be, and I figured straight away it'd be Shlup. Thanks for not letting me down.

I have yet to see any advice I'd consider stupid in EoEO (Not that I'm a frequent visitor there of course, I don't want to tarnish my rep) and if there are any stupid posts, the offender has been banned.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I think a large part of it has to do with the intent behind the thread, which can be difficult to judge at times. Where does one draw the line? Is it a post about sex to get away with it, or is it a genuine question?

[Meat Puppet]

Didn't that guy leave EoFF forever, though?

[Dr Unne]

Seems like the advice people get when they ask for it is sound. When isn't it? When newbies post "lolz" and then get a two week ban? Can't really stop that, except to give them an EoEO ban, which they get, so there you go.

Ah, I didn't see that the "lolz threesoem" guy was banned. Yay for Leeza.

As for the level of conversation, if you don't want to hear about genital warts then you probably shouldn't click a thread entitled "Eyes on STDs." EoEO is for serious discussion, and I think members should feel comfortable bringing up something they want to discuss seriously. Being shot down just because this serious matter involves your penis or that serious matter is something some people may not feel comfortable with is counter-productive to the whole point of having a members-only forum for serious discussion.

Because you can always tell by the thread title, right? It could be "I have an STD, what should I do?" or "How do you deal with when your partner has an STD?". Or "I have a wart on my penis, describe yours", apparently.

There's the "If you don't like it, don't read it" option, and then there's the "If the majority of people don't want to read it, don't say it" option. Both have their benefits. Either way, I would be somewhat hesitant to use the word "serious" to describe many of the threads in EoEO at the moment.

I'm the master of giving people the "If you don't like it, leave". I just don't read 90% of the stuff on this MB, for the most part. That's always an option too. I'd like it if this was still a nice place to talk about things, that's all. In the meantime I exercise my right to avoid it most of the time.

Be glad I didn't play the "It's a family MB, there are children here" card. I could've easily.

[Winter Nights]

While I do agree that having the right to discuss adult topics seriously is a good thing, I also have to agree with Dr Unne that certain topics (for example, the Masterbation thread) seems to be there just for the sake of talking about it. Threads that would normally belong in Gen. Chat, due to their casual nature, but can't go there as they would be closed. EoEO is for serious discussions, if I recall. Just because you can chat un-childishly about your genitals, that doesn't make it a serious discussion.

[Shlup]

So, upon reading the first post (before anyone else had posted because I am supa-fast) I thought to myself I wonder who the first person to post "If you don't like hearing about things like this, then don't read threads about them!" will be, and I figured straight away it'd be Shlup. Thanks for not letting me down.

I got tired of having it used on me, so I just plain stole it.

Ah, I didn't see that the "lolz threesoem" guy was banned. Yay for Leeza.

Main problem with removing the "No EoEO For ME" title.

Because you can always tell by the thread title, right? It could be "I have an STD, what should I do?" or "How do you deal with when your partner has an STD?". Or "I have a wart on my penis, describe yours", apparently.

I was under the impression that he invited other people to discuss their STDs because he thought if he was just asking a question or talking about himself the thread would be closed. I took the thread to be of the "I think I have an STD, what should I do?" variety.

There's the "If you don't like it, don't read it" option, and then there's the "If the majority of people don't want to read it, don't say it" option. Both have their benefits. Either way, I would be somewhat hesitant to use the word "serious" to describe many of the threads in EoEO at the moment.

That could apply to entirely too many things, in any forum. I realize that freedom of speech is forfeit here, but I think there's a limit.

I'm the master of giving people the "If you don't like it, leave". I just don't read 90% of the stuff on this MB, for the most part. That's always an option too. I'd like it if this was still a nice place to talk about things, that's all. In the meantime I exercise my right to avoid it most of the time.

Yes, we'd all like it if EoFF was just how it was four or so years ago. Closing topics left and right isn't going to change it back. We still have time to inact the "ban all newbies" plan though.

Be glad I didn't play the "It's a family MB, there are children here" card. I could've easily.

I freaking hate it when people run with that, so thanks for not making me want to kill you today.

Seriously, it's okay to kick back a bit, people. You don't have to let the place go to hell but you can chill out a bit and not take things to seriously. You should all eat some Sean-pills and relax a bit. Make love, not war or something.

[Raistlin]

The title of the forum is "Eyes on Each Other." Therefore, the general flow of the threads will follow the ideas of the majority of the members (the ones that go into EoEO, anyway). Way back when, when EoEO was a "good place," as you called it, it was a smaller board and we genuinely had more interest in each other. I would also consider the maturity level higher. The maturity/interest level has fallen, therefore the quality of threads has fallen. The staff can't close serious threads because they don't like them. As long as they're within the rules, the members are free to discuss whatever they want to seriously.

So yeah. "If you don't like it, don't read it." For the most part, that's my decision.

[Del Murder]

We've been discussing it, and the threads are being closed when they get out of hand. I still think Eoeo is pretty good.

[Shlup]

I'm sure we were all so very mature four-five years ago. xD No, rather, I think that we're all older, and all the new members coming in are younger so there's a maturity gap. When we were teenagers, the members joining were teenagers. Now we're twenty-somethings and the members joining are still teenagers.

[Raistlin]

But we were so much cooler teenagers.

[Shlup]

Oh I don't doubt it.