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thats bull ......Originally Posted by Old Manus
You get the occasional anomaly
there was a picture here
I'm an anomaly(
X-2's a very good game.
If you’re comparing it to Halo, then yes.
Yknow I find it hard to believe you're the same guy who wrote that Contemporary FF games over criticised thread but you cant see past a very good game because it makes you feel girly.
As you can see, I still disapproved of FFX-2 while I was ranting on.
If I ever say that FFI-III is superior to FFX-2 in relation to today’s standards of RPG’s, then by all means; bring up that massive post and take me down. Until then, I fail to see how any of my actions here contradict anything in that post.
FFX-2 is a game that was ruined by stereotypes. Despite the fact that it shouldn’t have existed to begin with, if it was handled correctly it could have been great.
But it wasn’t.
If it wasn’t for the fact that you could skip some of the dialogue sequences, any attempt that I would make at playing this game again would result in me hanging myself. Sorry, the approach that this game utilizes to develop the plot is f@#$ing stupid, IMO. It doesn’t appeal to me at all. Ultimately, this game has a great battle system, great graphics and an almost interesting story which all equates to absolute s@#$ because it was screwed over by unbearable characters and a terrible presentation.
Thus, f@#$ it. This game, and any of its fans who can’t complete a sentence without replacing ‘you’ with ‘u’ and ‘that guy is a moron’ with ‘HE BE DA SUXOR’, deserves everything they get.
Yes and I dont think you should have been when the game isnt as bad as you make it out to be.As you can see, I still disapproved of FFX-2 while I was ranting on.
What Im basically saying is you over critiscize it. I wasnt going into great detail. Just taking the gist of what you said.If I ever say that FFI-III is superior to FFX-2 in relation to today’s standards of RPG’s, then by all means; bring up that massive post and take me down. Until then, I fail to see how any of my actions here contradict anything in that post.
What stereotypes were these? Paine being overly moody and Rikku being overly hyper? They still had personalitys even if they were girly.FFX-2 is a game that was ruined by stereotypes. Despite the fact that it shouldn’t have existed to begin with, if it was handled correctly it could have been great.
What do you mean by a terrible presentation? Rikku and brother could be irritating but the rest of the cast didnt seem to have any particularly irritating factors. Gippal, Nooj, Lenne, Shuyin and Baralai were all new and particularly interesting characters. Only the occasional one was irritating.If it wasn’t for the fact that you could skip some of the dialogue sequences, any attempt that I would make at playing this game again would result in me hanging myself. Sorry, the approach that this game utilizes to develop the plot is f@#$ing stupid, IMO. It doesn’t appeal to me at all. Ultimately, this game has a great battle system, great graphics and an almost interesting story which all equates to absolute s@#$ because it was screwed over by unbearable characters and a terrible presentation.
Cant I apply this to FFVII or any popular game also. The X-2 forums the closest thing to god.Thus, f@#$ it. This game, and any of its fans who can’t complete a sentence without replacing ‘you’ with ‘u’ and ‘that guy is a moron’ with ‘HE BE DA SUXOR’, deserves everything they get.
I at least acknowledge that the game play and graphics were rather entertaining, and that I thought it was better than FFI-III. That’s more than most people will give it.
But ultimately, even Paine is unfortunately bound to that ‘anime’ girl sort of feel that is present in the other 2 protagonists. This isn’t always a problem (Anime such as Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 plays upon such stereotypes rather successfully), although considering the direction that the game was taken in, it didn’t help.
Presentation means exactly that; the way the game was presented. Countless times I sat through scenes and thought, ‘this scene could have been SO much better if they had said it like this’ or ‘the dialogue could have been much better here if Rikku hadn’t randomly said that.’ As you pointed out, not all of the charcters are terrible in this game (Shuyin ultimately didn’t make much of an antagonists, but he wasn’t unbearable either). However, all it takes is the input of characters such as Rikku, brother or LeBlank to ruin a scene that was starting to show promise (The final scene before the battle with Vegnagun is a good example of this).
Believe it or not, I’m not that fond of FFVII fan boys either. However, once in a while an FFVII fan will contribute a half decent thread about symbolism or a plot analysis. This does not happen nearly enough in the FFX-2 forum, most of these threads are absolute crap.
What happened to the cool Destai who hated FFX-2
there was a picture here
Hm, I'm an anomaly too then?
Dialogue in X-2 is a whole different style than other FFs yeah. Most of them have a lot of 'serious, grim' dialogue with some light-heartedness among them, X-2 is generally light-hearted, with now and then some grimness or melancholy in it. Again, if you play the game hoping to get Final Fantasy VII or VIII or X or, heck, any other FF, you WILL be dissappointed. (But that goes for most FFs to some extent) Play the game on its own merits. Try to enjoy FF-x2, instead of playing it while wishing you had FF-VII. If you want to play FF-VII, play FF-VII. They're two different games, that go for two different ways of telling the story.
People tend to overestimate the crap that gets produced, because it's hard to tell something that's well made, but not to your tastes from something that's not to ANYONE'S tastes.
And I LIKED Brother and Rikku's antics.
The storm was coming? Light, he WAS the storm
-Rand Al'Thor.Path of Daggers. Robert Jordan
I've played them all and beaten most of them (the main exceptions being FF1-III, and currently X-2 which I'm working on at the moment).
I definitely think the game gets too much flack. The gameplay is some of the best in the series, the non linear style was a nice change of pace, especially after the incredibly linear FFX, the graphics were still great, and it was kind of interesting to see how Spira changed since FFX. I also think the main story was fairly interesting. Granted there's a lot of stuff in there that's little more than pointless filler, that wasn't that great. A lot of stuff worked, some didn't, but the game's far from horrible.
I actually liked them too, Brother was such a bad character, that he made me laugh. I also thought Rikku was fun though she was much better in FFX. I was also okay with Yuna as a character. The problem for me was there was no development. There was nothing new added except for Yuna's total change and Rikku's loss of any seriousness, but that happened at the beginning it wan't developed into. The worst part for me was storyline as I can't stand Paine so any part to do with her was weak. And the Shuyin plot while not actively bad was weak. I did and do enjoy this game though. The gameplay is very enjoyable as are the graphics, I find the character incredibly uneven though generally in the opposite way of mostly people who dislike characters. The storyline was weak, but the game had a fun feel that I enjoyed... I thought it was a good game, but with no claim to being especially great.And I LIKED Brother and Rikku's antics.
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