I was ending the debate by apologizing, it is not my fault you couldn't realize that.

Okay, so now you've said what you wanted, you're going to totally dismiss everything anyone else said? Also, who's to say that someone else might come along and join in?

You don't own this thread, so stop trying to control it. =\
Right, I highly doubt thats "not trying to cause fights, just trying to provoke the debate", thats just simply being an ass, especially the last comment. That would also be a personal attack, which you claim you're not trying to do.

About my past characters, and what "i've told you, in the past" apparently you didn't listen much, because I told you my past characters were on Shiva server, so how exactly could I get gil from them?

Who says you're paying for them to make a living? There is multiple ways to make gil, not just camping an nm. Something I realize people fail to do is talk to the gilsellers instead of going all ape on them. "/tell Gilsellersname {Can you speak english?} ^^" is that so hard? You're also not paying so people can make a living off anything, you're paying so you can play on SE's servers, and you know that quite well. Gilsellers have NOTHING to do with what you pay each month, so stop using that as an excuse.