Quote Originally Posted by Yu-Yevon
iron dukes help alot and auto wall makes his attaks do only 59 with puches and kicks and 300 with more powerful attaks.
Yeah that's a ton of help as you get iron dukes by beating trema at the end of the cloisters.

I never beat the thing before trema (not that I tried very hard), it kept on using some move I think it was called genesis that dealt about 11000 to all bombing me immediately.