The Zen Creatives are great. They cost less than iPods, and you don't have to convert them to the stupid iPod format.
The one I got for my birthday was a 20G Creative Zen, and was only $215. It works well and has good sound quality, and comes with a leather holder. It says you can add a voice recorder for it, but I guess that costs extra. For mine you just have to install this program on you comp which you use to transfer the music from your comp onto your mp3 player.
The reason I got the 20 was because the 5 costs $180, so I figured why not get an extra 15G for another $30?






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