I've used a Creative Zen and own an <a href="http://www.iriver.com.au/iriver/index.cfm?pageID=2&sID=2&prodID=9&">iriver H340</a> (<b>not</b> related to iPod), and I can say that in my opinion, Zens are better than iPods; H340s are better than Zens. I would go for iriver if I were you.