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    I cannot count how many times I have seen this thread. But I want to see what you have to say on the matter . . . IMO, Ansem is by-far the best villain ever, followed by:

    2. Sephiroth ( maybe Kefka)
    3. Presidents Shinra ( notice the 's')
    4. Riku

    I want to see the full-potential of both characters realised. Meaning: Sephiroth's Solar Flare, Sin Harvest, etc. Ansem's Submit, Power over the Heartless, etc. I would also like to see: Motivations and beliefs expanded like Sephiroth's misanthropic views, and Ansem's search for godliness ( omnipotence and omniscience). As for whatever you consider their most redeaming qualities. It seemed that of the two, Sephiroth acted with more humanity. It is clear that what led to Sephiroth's mental breakdown was enevitable. He thought of himself as an abomination, but not to the degree of Cloud's ancestors. Ansem, on the other hand, began to desire knowledge and so he studied the Heart as well as Darkness and their connection. After choosing test-subjects, he experimented upon their Hearts, but to little avail. He confined their lifeless bodies beneath his castle. Once he realised what he had created, he began to spawn the Heartless artificially. His lust for power began with his embracement of the world's Energy Core. Take in each's power in the games they have been in. This does include CoM for Ansem, in which, he was, yes, rather difficult. And KH and VII for Sephiroth.

    And for heavens sake, think of DiZ as well as Ansem, who looks like an amazing character. I have spoken to people who could not stand Ansem only for the fact that his initial battles were less than challenging. They all expect the same amazing comeback from DiZ as I do.

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    Riku becomes a bad guy eh?



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    Sephy rules ansem drools end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydon52
    Sephy rules ansem drools end of story.
    right-o!!

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    Ansem talks waay too much! Any time you start the batte with him, you have to listen to him monologue for 15 minutes! At least Sephiroth doesn't talk... Sephiroth is more challenging anyway... I'd vote for Sephy any day!

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    Ansem when he attacks goes "Blah blah blah darkness blah blah blah open your heart....."and so on, where as sephy "Sin harvest" or just "huh"

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    If only Ansem could shut his trap....

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    Ansem sounds so freaking KOOL! So does Sephiroth, don't care who does his voice, yes, I know who it is . . . But, Ansem still sounds kooler, how can people think it's a bad quality? Not to maention, Ansem did conquer countless worlds with his army, remember? One of which was Hollow Bastion, which, at the time, was inhabited by: Cloud, Squall, Aerith, Yuffie AND Sephiroth! And yet, it was still consumed by Darkness, Squall even said he could not stop it and he and the others fled with Cid on his ship. Cloud was left behind and fond his way to OC. C'mon, if the FF dudes had the power to conquer Ansem, they would have started their own quest like in VII and VIII. But, they didn't. Squall was ashamed so much that he change his name! Sorry, but as Tetsuya Nomuru said, Ansem adds complexity. And represents the series as well as Sephiroth did in VII. In CoM, he had a whole little cult, and was deeply admired by Axel, obviously from his quote, He (Sora) became a Heartless, but kept the memories of who he was. Only one other person has ever done that (Ansem) . . .

    Sorry, it does bug me when people put down Sephiroth, but it bugs me just as much when they do it to Ansem . . .

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    What you're forgetting is that Kingdom Hearts is non-canon with regards to the Final Fantasy characters. Bring in the REAL Cloud, Squall, Cid and the others, not the wussified Kingdom Hearts versions, and they'd have no trouble making Ansem drink his own piss.

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    Ansem's voice itself is ok... but when u want to beat on hom really bad... you just don't want to sit there and listen to him talk...

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    It definitely depends in my opinion. In Final Fantasy VII, Sephy was a badass, but I could beat him with my controller behind my back. In KH, Ansem was more difficult, but Sephy in that game was just impossible. Overall, if I it wasn't for the fact that Ansem talks so much, I picked Sephy. (As a side note, I hate when I lose and then I have to listen to ten more minutes of Ansem because you can't skip cut scenes.

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    that's one of the only ways the game could improve... skip those stupid cutscenes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ?????
    What you're forgetting is that Kingdom Hearts is non-canon with regards to the Final Fantasy characters. Bring in the REAL Cloud, Squall, Cid and the others, not the wussified Kingdom Hearts versions, and they'd have no trouble making Ansem drink his own piss.
    uhhhh....how about a tea bag??? That happed at my school recently to this stupid kid from another school

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    nice to know...

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