I just want to point out that grindcore isn't metal, it's hardcore.
But I generally agree with eest because he's always right.
I just want to point out that grindcore isn't metal, it's hardcore.
But I generally agree with eest because he's always right.
Unity is not something I strive for honestly, I am perfectly fine with being close with a few and separtated from the rest. Anyways, the reason for genres are simple: The reasons Traitor mentioned, and for this: Say you ask for some metal music and you like Sonata Arctica, someone will be able to suggest say Rotting Christ. Chances are you will hate it.
Therefore you will ask for power metal that way you will not get black metal. Eh.
Yes, I know Grindcore is a subgenre of punk, I just included it in my list as many times with bands like Napalm Death it ends up being combined with death metal.
Originally Posted by MecaKane
No matter how much you and Sigmund Freud want it to be, 'mother' is not a curse word.
OK... but I never actually metioned 'Industrial', just 'Industrial metal'. If I did say industrial, it aws simply because I couldn't be bothered writing metal, and assumed that, from the context, people would understand what I was meant (in a thread about metal, and a post in which 'industrial metal' has already been mentioned, it's probably safe to assume that the poster is not going to drag un-related genres in for no apparent reason).
Yeah, that makes sense. But sometimes you get arrogant music journalists who come up with non-existant genres to make themselves sound smart, or elitist jerks who invent genres to exclude other's from the private cliques.
Oh yes I know, <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> like Math metal and Pirate metal pisses me off, and then when people do overclassify the real genres, down to <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> like Technical Melodic Brutal Deathcore.
I actually do keep my genres as simple as I can afford to keep them, because they are confusing enough at my level hehe.
No matter how much you and Sigmund Freud want it to be, 'mother' is not a curse word.
How will people ever know what they like if they don't try listening to it?
By overdefining things, then people may be prevented from listening to something they may enjoy purely because it's entirely divorced from one or two bands they listen to.
I really couldn't care less what type of Metal certain music is. If it's good, I'll listen to it, If not, I won't. I don't care what sub-genre it is.
Metal - Music that makes me go rah rah rah rah and jump jump jump jump.
That's about it. Well if something has pretty inaudiable lyrics I'll say it's death metal, and rappy rappy is nu-metal. The two extreams, really.
Crushed Hope, I'm forever in love with you just for posting a link to a Pain of Salvation song. The Perfect Element is just that- perfect. It's a shame this band is pretty much unknown except to Dream Theater fans =/
Yes it really is a shame that not alot of people know of the band. They are easily my favorite band ever, with The Perfect Element being their best album to date. Though they have nothing but 10/10 albums under their belt.
On topic: I do understand what you are saying TF, however I guess I see it as more useful because I listen to metal more than most people, and more indepth than most people, to the point that I enjoy at least one band from each subgenre, so I find it useful when I want to find something similar to a certain genre or band.
No matter how much you and Sigmund Freud want it to be, 'mother' is not a curse word.
Still, this over-classification puts people off certain bands for no real reason. FOr example, a guy in my class refused to accept that he might like a band someone mentioned because 'he didn't like black metal'. This may be a fair reason, but it really seems a little narrow-minded to me. I don't think it was just him, either. The whole over-classifiaction of genres usually ends up at that.
I agree with NEcron- if it's good it's good, and the genre is irrelevant. But it is still possible to talk about some genres, for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
Not meaning to step on people's toes but surely catagories rise up all the time? Surely these genres arise because a band plays something that cannot be grouped with others IMO and therefore must be made special?
However, ignore all that:
Is it important to group all these bands? If you like it, then surely that's the important thing? Grouping music takes the fun out of it IMO. Although I do a little grouping...
-STUFF I LIKE
-STUFF I DON'T LIKE
"I think you'd make any (nice) woman happy... & I think you really deserve for someone to make you happy too for a change"
Not really- a band can exist between two r more genres. A genre really has to a true musical movement. A few bands who happen to sound sort of the same, or at least similarly different, do not constitute a genre.
Among other things, really good bands change styles, and can't be bound to a single genre.
That's why there are sub-genres.
Yet you can put single songs or even albums in certain genres.
People don't like music because it belongs to a certain genre. They like it simply because they enjoy listening to it. There is, however, a bigger chance that they will like other music similar to what they like, than music not similar to what they like or similar to what they dislike.
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