Quote Originally Posted by Christmas
They climbed.....and I dun really know why only Tifa, Red XIII and Yuffie are limited to these CHI thingy you talking about and personally, I dun really know these CHI thingy ...
considering Ive been talking about wuxia all through this thread, and what chi is, how it empowers warrior in wuxia films and how AC emulated that style, and based on the rather blatant imitation how illogical it is that cid and barrett got up there, its rather pointless for me to state it yet AGAIN since its unlikely you would read my post this time around, and just try to continue debating pointlessly.

speaking of not bothering to repeat myself...


Quote Originally Posted by Vyk
Like I said, it's about a game where people have high levels. That doesn't exactly equate to chi. Its just... they're "powerful" and can do things. Cloud could have gotten up there himself. But he would have only went so far. I guess he was being lazy and relying on his team mates. But I mean he did get up there to save Berret. So its not like he couldn't. They had to have an excuse to involve everyone. And "Berret and Cid aren't trained in martial arts so they have to sit this scene out" doesn't really cut it when it has nothing to do with martial arts. I'd say they got in key positions to throw him to keep the momentum going, but momentum was kinda lost with each throw, especially Cids where he stopped and stood on his spear for a time. I suppose Cloud probably could have jumped from beam to beam himself to at least get to the top. But I think it's more a sentimentality thing than anything else. The team helps Cloud get to his goal. But leaping or throwing, neither would have gotten him there either way. It was a leap of faith and if Aeris hadn't helped out, he would have only went so far and fell back in a very anti-climactic manner. But the fact that Aeris took on physical form and helped throw him isn't in itself all that logical. Its just not meant to represent our physical reality. Or the reality given in martial arts lore. It has its own reality.

Edit: :<3: Unknowns

Edit2: Oh, I guess your name is Christmas now o_O
FOR THE LAST TIME! FFVII ADVENT CHILDREN EMULATES THE STYLE OF WUXIA AND ANIME ALMOST TOO A TEE, IT DOESNT MEAN IT TRIES TO BE WUXIA ITS JUST IMITATING. NEXT TIME YOU POST A REPLY THAT TRIES TO CONVICNE ME OF SOMETHING IVE ALREADY STATED, IM GOING TO REPLY WITH QUOTES OF ALL THE TIMES IVE STATED AC EMULATES AND IMITATES ANIME AND WUXIA, NOT JUST ON THIS THREAD BUT IN EVERY OTHER THREAD ON HERE, AND BELIEVE ME THATS A HELLUVA LOT. IF YOU CANT SEE THE RESEMBLENCE IN THE ACTION SCENES AND ABILITIES THEN YOU EITHER ARENT AT ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT, OR ARE IN DENIAL. I DO NOT INTEND TO FLAME YOU, BUT IM TIRED OF REPEATING MYSELF. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC BESIDES "ITS FOLLOWING VIDEO GAME LOGIC" OR "ITS NOT WUXIA OR ANIME" THEN SAY IT. LIKE HOW IS IT NOT A ACT OF STUPIDITY TO TRY AND PUT VIDEO GAME RULES INTO A MOTION PICTURE? OTHERWISE I DONT INTEND TO CONTINUE REPEATING MYSELF.

and thank you for making my point for me, on the sense that you even admit that the story makes not one lick of sense from a storytelling perspective. People like to make fun of the initial translation Akira recieved in the eighties, and how it didnt make a lick of sense. Ive seen the early translation of akira and believe me, dippy translation and poor acting aside, it made alot more sense that all the crap in AC. But the films biggest sin, the absolute worst thing they did with the film is have Aerieth come back. Her in game death helped make the story feel a bit more serious and personal (and believe me, FFVII needed all the help it could get in that regard). Bringing her back in a physical sense, where she helps impact the living world was a huge mistake. She's DEAD people, get over it. But it appears that Square is applying the single absolute rule of marvel comics to the FFVII universe as well, "only Bucky stays dead". Having her coucil cloud on his self destructive mood swings, cure the geostigma, resurrect cloud, and tend to sick children at the end was all the most contrived and fanboyish piece of writing Ive seen in a long time.