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    Default Ten reasons not to get a PS3

    Disclaimer: These are not my words, they were written and used with permission by a friend of mine.


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    10 Reasons Not to Buy The PS3


    Echo Evolution from our forums has dug up this post from IGN on the to 10 reasons you should not buy the PS3:


    I was looking on the Xbox 360 forum and I spotted a topic by a IGN user
    called Zeylon, and the topic name is Ten 10 reasons why you shouldn't
    get the PS3, even if the PS3 was out today. And this is what Zeylon had
    to say:

    I don't think the PS3 sucks, but since IGN was stupid
    enough to publish some trash with crappy reasons not to get an Xbox
    360... all bets are off. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/668/668446p1.html.

    1. No Live! In fact, sony came out and recently announced that they're not even going to bother to build an answer to Xbox Live.

    Sony, you can keep your ability to plug in 7 controllers. I'll take being
    able to play with 63 other players on live in a fps over 7 controllers
    any day of the week.

    2. The 36.5 megabits per second blu ray drive that Sony is squeezing into the PS3.

    The BD-Rom drive that's going to be used in the PS3 has a speed of 36.5
    MBits per second. 36.5megaBITS per second, not megaBYTES.
    8bits=1byte=4.5megaBYTES per second. http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    This is because the technology for the drives will still be in it's infancy when the ps3 is being launched.

    That means in order to fill the 256MB cache (to load a decent sized race on
    GT4 let's say) will take about 56 seconds of waiting.

    To fill the same 256MB cache on the xbox 360's 12x DVD drive read at 15.75MB/s (megabytes) = 15 seconds

    I know you know your math.

    If you want an idea of how long a minute is, try staring at a clock for a minute and see how bored you get.

    I'm not going to stand for huge loading times next gen as well. Long load
    times are meant to be a thing of the past. But Sony is making sure
    that's not the case by insisting on using Blu Ray drives when the
    technology (and their read speeds) are still so early.

    On top of this, Playstation 3 Blu Ray drive will cost Gamers $100+ per console. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25901

    And within 1 year, once blu-ray movies actually start coming out, the same
    $100 would probably buy you a far faster 4x or 8x blu-ray player that
    functions a lot better (compare watching dvds on a standalone player
    vs. on the original ps2). And do you really think that, if blu-ray does
    come out on top, that the 360 won't release with a version that can
    play bluray versions as well? Legally, as long as MS pays the same
    small fees that other blu ray player manufacterers pay to use sony's
    tech, Sony can't stop MS from putting blu ray drives in their 360s. And
    by then, the drives will likely be a lot cheaper, and a lot faster than
    the once found on the launch PS3s.

    3. Opting for 8 USB ports and multiple memory card readers over a HDD.

    There's no reason to put in like 8 usb ports and all these freaking memory card
    reader and all these other ports that no one wants. We can buy a memory
    card adapter if we want.

    We don't need 3 ethernet ports, one will be more than plenty. JUST INCLUDE 4 USB 2.O PORTS, 1 ETHERNET PORT,
    SUPPORT FOR SONY MEMORY STICK DUOS (since that's what psp uses and
    that's what makes Sony the most money) AND THE STUFF TO CONNECT TO
    ANALOG AND HDTVS.

    USE THE MANUFACTURING COSTS YOU SAVE TO THROW
    IN A CHEAP 5GB HDD so developers can make games like Blinx or FFXI or
    use the HDD to reduce load times and stuff.

    IF A SMALL HDD IS INCLUDED IN EVERY SYSTEM, EVERY DEVELOPER WILL USE IT TO REDUCE LOAD
    TIMES. Don't you guys want developers to use the hdd to reduce
    loadtimes, to make games like FFXI that require a HDD? wouldn't that be
    better than a bunch of useless ports that no one will use that you can
    just buy an adapter for if you really need?

    SELL THE ADAPTER TO CONNECT OLD PS2 AND PS1 GAMES SEPERATELY FOR LIKE $10 AND YOU'LL MAKE
    ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE HDD. Once we transfer all our old saves
    over to the HDD, we can just sell it on ebay or something and it's one
    less ugly port we have to look at.

    HDD = Custom soundtracks, downloadable content, FFXI style mmorpgs, faster load times.

    Multiple seperate Memory Card Readers Built in = Worthless

    4. Sony disabling the ability to have LAN parties (without getting wired
    controllers) by insisting on using bluetooth controllers over Infrared
    ones.

    "Bain admitted that the wireless signal could be interfered
    with by another nearby PlayStation 3 console and in those instances
    where many consoles would be close by, such as at a LAN party, it would
    be necessary to default to using wired controllers"

    5. The Cell.

    Not only is the cell processor going to jack up the price of the PS3 quite
    a bit. It's greatly bottlenecked by the 512 MBs of L2 Cache (the 360
    has twice that much L2 Cache).

    For all the hype about the cell. Guess what, the processor means jack when it comes to gaming. 3 3.2 ghz
    cores vs. 1 3.2 ghz core and 7 PPEs mean nothing. What matters for
    gaming is the GPU. And most reports (anandtech etc.) state that the
    360's graphics card is almost a generation more advanced. This makes
    sense, ATI built the card from the ground up with technology that won't
    make it's way into PC cards for atleast an year or so. The NVIDEA card
    in the PS3 is identical to the card as what'll be available for the PC
    in a month or two. The only thing that the cpu will actually matter for
    is the AI. And AI is more depenedent on L2 cache (this is what
    ultimately determines the number of simultanous algorithms you can run
    at any one time) than on processing speed. And guess what, the 360's
    has twice the L2 cache of the PS3's Cell!

    6. No requirement to make developers use 720p.

    People make the ps3s 1080i sound like it's going to be standard. All that sony
    said was the the PS3 supports aka. can theoretically output 1080i.

    Guess what, the original xbox "supports" 720p (identical to how the ps3 will "support" 1080i).

    Want to guess how many xbox games actually came out offering 720p? I'll give you one guess.

    Want to take a guess how many ps3 games wil actually offer 1080i (Or the
    even more useless dual monitor output) esp. considering how much extra
    work it'll be to render everything at that resolution for two monitors
    - as if the PS3's measily 512 L2 Cache isn't already enough of a
    bottleneck?

    The cool thing about the 360 is that all the games
    are required to support 720p, and considering that's a MUCH MUCH MUCH
    higher resolution than dvds, it's more than enough.

    7. Accessible cost

    Blu-ray wont be cheap! Cell won't be cheap! Odds are, when the PS3 finally does
    come out, MS will lower the price a bit and the PS3 will cost a small
    fortune by comparison. The discs cost a small fortune to manufacture,
    don't expect games under $70 atleast for an year or so, and if then you
    consider the development costs who knows!

    8.The Games.

    Well this one is kind of a toss up. The Xbox 360's Kameo, Enchant Arm,
    Perfect Dark (drool), RE5, Gears of War, Blue Dragon, Oblivion, FPS,
    Racers (Forza, PGR), DoA etc. vs. GTA 4 and whatever sequels Sony has
    planned. What is true is the the 360s gaming library will get a one
    year headstart, and the PS3's will probably take a long time to catch
    up, if ever.

    9. The Design.

    Well this is personal opinion too. But who came with the brilliant idea to model it after a building
    anyways? Fire them and make it look next gen. My old Atari Jaguar looks
    less crappy. YOU CALL THAT A NEXT GEN DESIGN!? There is really no
    symmetry to it at all. Put the drive in the middle, get rid of the
    weird ridges and make it actually look smooth in the front and back and
    well. Then you have a nextgen looking consoles.

    IT REALLY WOULDN'T TAKE MANY ALTERATIONS TO MAKE THE CONSOLE LOOK AWESOME, GET
    RID OF THE RIDGES SO ITS LOOKS PERFECTLY SMOOTH ON THE FRONT AND THE
    BACK, MOVE THE CD TRAY TO THE MIDDLE TO MAKE THE CONSOLE SYMMETRICAL.
    IT WOULD LOOK AWESOME.

    10. Developer Hell.

    No one has any experience working with the Cell. 7 PPEs, seriously, you think any
    developer is going to have any idea how to utilize them? Just making a
    game that uses dual processors takes a 50% larger budget. Meanwhile,
    developers are already raving about how much easier Microsoft's
    standards and XNA development kits are making it to develop 360 games.
    And it's a heck of a lot cheaper to manufacture the discs too. Even
    small developers with just $100,000 can make their own game and sell it
    via Xbox Live marketplace.

    And as already mentioned the L2 cache
    of the PS3's cell in miniscule. Most PC processors and the 360's
    processor have twice the cache. To make a processor with half the cache
    and expect it to be shared among 7 PPEs is just asking for developers
    to curse Sony day and night.

    On top of all this, by the time the
    PS3 launches, developers will have had loads of experience of utilizing
    the 360. Expect the 2nd generation 360 games using much smaller budgets
    to blow the first generation PS3 games out of the water graphically.

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    one reason to buy one...
    - FINAL FANTASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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    Even so PS3 > XB360.


    Xbox don't have FF or DMC, Mixrosoft's only game worth getting is Halo, and the that HDD adapter for older games is b/s!

    LET THE HAMMER FALL

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    Good thing I don't care about most of that crap. I'll stick with Playstation and its superior gaming library, especially in the RPG category.

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    Total rubbish, I say. xbox 360 having better graphics? sheeeeeeesh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoden
    Even so PS3 > XB360.


    Xbox don't have FF or DMC, Mixrosoft's only game worth getting is Halo, and the that HDD adapter for older games is b/s!

    Final Fantasy is a tired warhorse that needs a longo verdue hiatus, Devil May cry was only good with DMC1, and the 360 has more than just Halo.

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    How about Suikoden, Star Ocean, Breath of Fire, Dragon Quest, and Xenosaga?

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    11) It makes Mario and whoever the hell the Halo guy is (Master Chef?) sad when you buy one.

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    Suikoden is theo nly one sonly exclusive. The others can easily go to Microsoft of Nintendo if they wanted to.

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    "If they wanted to," though they won't.

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    Joel, here's a tip for your "friend":
    If you want to sound smart and have people actually believe the bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]** you're saying IT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO TALK LIKE THIS IT REALLY MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A WHINEY INTERNET BRAT WHEN YOU HAVE ENTIRE PARAGRAPHS LIKE THIS

    And you can still play online games without having an idiot-proof user interface. Also, unless something's changed recently. The PS3 is supposed to come with a HDD, but the Xbox 360 doesn't come with a harddive either. Just because Xbox didn't have much support for HDTVs doesn't mean the PS3 won't even though they're not forcing developers to. HDTV is going to be a lot more widespread in the next few years than it was in the past Xbox years. Hmm, what else. Oh! A FAST Blu-ray/HD-DVD player for $100? Haha, that's funny. Maybe he should remember how much god-awful DVD players cost for their first few years of production.


    **Bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] I mentioned above:
    The discs cost a small fortune to manufacture, don't expect games under $70 atleast for an year or so
    The disks cost something like 10% more than DVDs to produce As mentioned here
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    ff for playstation 3 ...

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    Console fanboys are smurfing idiots. I dont need to read an article to tell me that.

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    All those titles are avalible on PS2 aswell, DMC 3 was a masterpiece, PS3 has better graphics and sony has a reputation for superior games and quality.


    I played on an xbox and the controller is extremely exagurated, you can hardly grip it or keep hold of it. It has script changes of games that are also on other systems.


    We all know the 360 will cost more than PS3 for some reason.

    LET THE HAMMER FALL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoden
    I played on an xbox and the controller is extremely exagurated, you can hardly grip it or keep hold of it. It has script changes of games that are also on other systems.


    We all know the 360 will cost more than PS3 for some reason.
    The origional XBox controller sucked, the 360 controller is better and easier to handle.

    And as stated before, the Estimated price of a PS3 will be 500-600 dollars. A 360 now costs 399 (299 without the extra features.)

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