Now I will dismantel this whole arguement.

1) No PS3 live? Who cares. Can I still go online and play games? Yes. Can I play 30297 players online on the PS3 or XBox? That is up to the DEVELOPERS! It has nothing to do with live.

2) Load times will probably go away for the most part with the advent of streaming or having filler type stuff mask load times. Not a big deal and we will probably not notice it. How many games have bad load times now? Very few because most stuff is streamed to get rid of that. We will be fine.

Also the consumer will not pay the price on price. Sony will take the huge hit on the price to remain competitive. Thinking otherwise is insanely ignorant.

3) 360 does not come standard with an HDD either. It is a $100 extra option essentially. You lose this one instantaniously.

4) Legit arguement but it could be solved by the time PS3 rolls out.

5) Same thing was said about the PS2 and the emotion engine. Where is PS2? On top. It will just take developers some time to get to know the new hardware. Also the Cube had the easiest to develop for console last time...where are they? I rest my case that the ease of code use means nothing.

6) Considering how few people have HD TVs let alone HDTVs that do true 720p this isn't much of an arguement. Watch me throw this one back in your face. By requireing this of all game you limit developers by forcing them to use processing power to get the games to run at that resolution.

7) This is yet another baseless claim. People will not pay it and thus it will not be. The PS3 will cost as much as 360 or inbetween. The games will be priced about the same as 360.

8) This is opinion but Perfect Dark Zero sucks. The multiplayer is so slow and clunky. Terrible!

9) Your running out of ideas if this is #9. I can see the controller arguement but they did that because of patent violations and other things. I say they should have payed the patent holders to keep the other controller design but what ever.

10) Look to number 6. This one is redundant...like threads on a message board.

Wow...1 legit arguement in the whole non-sensical rambling.